why b 9 mm?

[BsB]

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[wildmanoutdoors]

Unless you practice speed shooting and or competition shooting religously Id keep the ball ammo in your high cap 9's.

Less damage to everything or everyone else when you miss everything you shoot at under realtime stressfire. 

[D-Rock425]

So it that drawing can you point out where my 357 sig would fit in?

[CP]

ref:  http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

[DoubleJ]

ref:  http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

So, do you think that bullet technology has come quite a ways since 1997 when this chart was originally made or not?  Personally, I have a feeling that the past 16 years of technological advancements have been quite good to ammunition choices.

[demontang]

Ill stick with my 45acp. Ive done lots of talking and reading on this subject and its pretty clear a 45 is supirior if you can handle it. Hell the armybhas said that the 9mm is not combat effective that should tell you something. Look at the fbi ballistics reports too the 45 has a edge just in physics bigger hole faster bleed out. 9MM is better then nothing and ok for smaller or recoil shy people.

[jaymark6655]

Like I have said before Mybrother has told me of times where shooting
 A enemy with 9mmwould not put them down and they continue to shoot back
Iwill take the advise from a man who had first hand seen what a9 mm will and will not
 Do.9mm or a 380 you can not give me one.wimpy and when my life counts on it
I know a lot people will be on here saying what a great round it is ,For popping paper maybe.self defense Noway.

Was this the military?  If so, they were using FMJ 9mm ball ammo.  No expansion and almost 100% complete pass through.  Much different than JHP that is avalible today.

.45 ball ammo would probably act about the same as your buddy saw with the 9mm

Man Dejavu    Always wonder, how many people your brother shot with his 9 and why isn't he using a M16 instead, heck even Cobra pilots will jam a M4 in the cockpit (really no room for it) so they don't get stuck with just a pistol, which is a last resort/defensive weapon.

What I get from that chart, pick whatever caliber you like.  Then get good ammo.  I thought the fbi was using the .40, why if the .45 is better?

[DoubleJ]

Ill stick with my 45acp. Ive done lots of talking and reading on this subject and its pretty clear a 45 is supirior if you can handle it. Hell the armybhas said that the 9mm is not combat effective that should tell you something. Look at the fbi ballistics reports too the 45 has a edge just in physics bigger hole faster bleed out. 9MM is better then nothing and ok for smaller or recoil shy people.

It's all about what you feel comfortable with.  2 or 3 decades ago, you really should have carried a larger caliber.  Today, with the ballistics differences between cartriges growing smaller and smaller every year, recoil, carrying capacity, gun size, etc. arguing over which caliber to carry is splitting hairs.  Shoot as many as you can and pick what you can comfortably handle. 

[CP]

ref:  http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

So, do you think that bullet technology has come quite a ways since 1997 when this chart was originally made or not?  Personally, I have a feeling that the past 16 years of technological advancements have been quite good to ammunition choices.

Probably, but there are a lot of good loads on that chart that are still very popular.

[DoubleJ]

Like I have said before Mybrother has told me of times where shooting
 A enemy with 9mmwould not put them down and they continue to shoot back
Iwill take the advise from a man who had first hand seen what a9 mm will and will not
 Do.9mm or a 380 you can not give me one.wimpy and when my life counts on it
I know a lot people will be on here saying what a great round it is ,For popping paper maybe.self defense Noway.

Was this the military?  If so, they were using FMJ 9mm ball ammo.  No expansion and almost 100% complete pass through.  Much different than JHP that is avalible today.

.45 ball ammo would probably act about the same as your buddy saw with the 9mm

Man Dejavu    Always wonder, how many people your brother shot with his 9 and why isn't he using a M16 instead, heck even Cobra pilots will jam a M4 in the cockpit (really no room for it) so they don't get stuck with just a pistol, which is a last resort/defensive weapon.

I was always told that on the battlefield, a pistol is meant for you to use to be able to fight your way to a rifle.

[magnanimous_j]

Ill stick with my 45acp. Ive done lots of talking and reading on this subject and its pretty clear a 45 is supirior if you can handle it. Hell the armybhas said that the 9mm is not combat effective that should tell you something. Look at the fbi ballistics reports too the 45 has a edge just in physics bigger hole faster bleed out. 9MM is better then nothing and ok for smaller or recoil shy people.

Three things,

1)   The military is forced to use FMJ ammo. Modern hollow points go a long way in making up the diameter difference
2)   Combat effective is not the same as Self Defense effective.
3)   When a bullet goes into flesh, it creates a stretch cavity which then crashes back down to size. Human flesh is especially elastic, so the idea of “a bigger hole for better bleeding” is kind of a myth. In fact, given the higher velocity of the 9mm, it creates a greater stretch cavity which will often lead to greater internal bleeding than a 45 will.

Either caliber requires hitting something vital for the shot to be quickly lethal. In the civilian world, only 5% of gunshot wounds are fatal.

[Fisherdave10]

... There are so many ignorant people on this forum...

[Atroxus]

... There are so many ignorant people on this forum planet...

Fixed that for ya. 

[rtspring]

To each is his own. I for one would take on anything in this country if all i had was my 9mm.  But im usually packing the XDM .40

[6x6in6]

... There are so many ignorant people on this forum that I felt I should chime in just once to join the crowd...

Fixed that for ya. 

No, that's better.