Spider Bull Grosses over 500!!!

[BC CHASER]

Incredible animal.

Those who think this is a cool way for a world class animal to die, probably don't understand the subtle differences between forcible rape and seduction either.  Neither one detracts from the target's qualities, but one should be a source of shame, not satisfaction.

I would have rather seen a young kid or an average Joe take this bull.  I did read in my reasearching of this bull that a young kid had a tag for the area and a ton of locals were helping him out.   So he too had an army of spotters but did not harvest it in the few weeks he had.  I do know the difference between forcible rape and seduction so please do not go there!  This is something that will continue to happen.  I have never seen anything in any newspapers or non-hunting magazines saying  this guy spent $$$$$$ to harvest this animal is this what is hunting coming to?  Selling meth is illeagal so I suggest you dont do it !  I said before none of us on here had a chance at that bull so who cares.  I personally have no problem with it.  As for the guys who do these kinds of hunts,  I know some of them hunt their asses of like you and I and some do not!  As far as being proud of their kills, I think they know that they did not do it by themselves and only have the horns to show for it and not the story.  If I had the money to do this I would and maybe some day I will but I can tell you it would be all DYI (except for you fishing is for fools) and I will have a story to go with those horns!  We need to stand together as hunters!  Lets agree to disagree but support this passion we all have!    

[wastickslinger]

I think he was juicing

[GoldTip]

Equating the way this bull was killed to forcible rape or to dealing Meth and the agreement of others with that statement is quite definitely the most foolish statement I have or hope to ever read on this website.  I sat here after reading that and it took me ten minutes to be able to even type as the absolute idiocy sent my mind swimming.  Seriously?  Forcible rape or Meth dealing, Wow.  It truly, truly scares me when someone who actually considers themselves a Sportsman would make a comment like that on a public website.

You can like or dislike the way this animal was hunted and killed, thats entirely up to you.  But please, think before you type any more moronic comments such as this.

[WDFW-SUX]

The bull was out in the sage. Everone with a monroe tag had an = shot at him. I've got no problem with how the hunt went down.

[MuleySniper]

I think he was juicing

 
Id love to see that bull in person. Im sure pictures don't do much justice.

[bucklucky]

I have a Question, how many of you that are pissed because of the way the bull was killed were actually there to know exactly what steps were taken to take the bull. Sounds like most is speculation to me. Does anyone on hear really know the truth and I'm not talking about rumors, speculation , or whatever. Is there anyone on this site that really knows the truth?
   Trust me, I dont agree with the way it has been said to come down , I dont think that is fair chase hunting and agree with waht alot of folks are saying. I just want to know the REAL TRUTH to the hunt, if you can truely call it a hunt.
    With that said, the mossback crew got it done again, another truely magnifiscant bull down! As for the hunt itself.........whatever 
   I wish I was mounting that bad boy!

[Muleyslyr]

Will be interesting to see how long this one goes before someone puts a freeze on it.    IMO....has no purpose even being on this site.

[Intruder]

A buddy of mine has hunted with Mossback and has related that they are very standup guys.  I'm not claiming to know how this hunt went down but I don't believe it was as "canned", if you will, as the hunt in the Blues.  Based on what I've heard from friend I'm guessing they approach their hunts in a more fair chase way.  My buddy has the money to pay for whatever they have to offer and has on 2 occassion come back empty handed.  I think it's unfair to assume this was a slam dunk situation. 

Unbelievable bull though.... Wow!!! 

[Broken Arrow]

while of course i do prefer reading of our own members killing bulls in the DIY methods, its still a great bull, and he is still of the hunting community. Hate to get into a pissing match with one of our own, only gives ammo to the anti's in this arena!

[bucklucky]

Nothing will ever be better that the DIY hunts! Nothing.

[bow4elk]

DIY - Amen!  That is the true spirit of hunting.  Hunting with an outfitter is great too.  As to whether or not this should even be discussed on this site, I disagree.  It really doesn't matter where these animals are killed because it all comes down to the perceptions they create.  I love reading about big animals and am really stoked to find out that money had no factor in someone's success.  But when a guy gets a large team of people out there working for him, it starts to get muddy for me.  Somehow that feels awkward.

And while I completely agree with the comments about sticking together as hunters, I do get nervous about the perceptions created by these publicized trophy hunts that seem to morally reduce hunting to the act of paying a huge sum of money for a huge rack and a "title".  Perception is reality; right or wrong.  If people percieve this as "hunting", then I think hunting as a whole has a real problem to deal with.

Imagine the uproar if this or any big dollar kill was on the evening news, being reported by a talking head who spews the stats while displaying the "team photo".  Ok, so maybe over here on the west side it would have a larger impact given there are more trees to hug, thus more huggers.  I can't help but think there would be an uproar.  Heck, look at the backlash aimed at the WDFW shooting that bear in Lacey recently.  There were over100 outraged commentaries about that to The Olympian.  You think any of those readers are going to vote "for baiting" anytime soon?  Don't think so.
 
I am sure a ton of effort went into this and most of these types of hunts.  I just worry about perceptions.

[JoshT]

The bull was out in the sage. Everone with a monroe tag had an = shot at him. I've got no problem with how the hunt went down.

Easy now... there's another side to this story. My brother lives in central Utah... and my uncle lives in the shadow of Monroe Mtn. where this bull was killed(?). They both run around there scouting quite a bit... and have seen and killed some absolute monster bulls on this mountain. Rumor has it that... this bull was seen several times in a high fenced field, with several other bulls and some domestic livestock, not far from where it was killed. Story even goes on to implicate this bull as being tame... even hand fed... then they loaded it in a trailer and moved it early in the season to take pics on the mountain... so as to make it all look legit.

Now, I don't know if it's true or not... but I have no reason to doubt the sources I heard the story from. Both parties champion Monroe Mtn. as the #1 bull mountain in all the world... they'd both be like proud parents if this bull was legit, and shot in their back yard... they would absolutely love it. Yet, both are very sceptical of the details... and they're actually quite sad about the way 'their mountain' got thrust into this controversy.

Big ass bull either way... but I'd rather shoot a cow, in the middle of nowhere, with one of my best buddies... than pay those monkeys from Mossback a plug nickle to show me a 400" bull.

[WDFW-SUX]

Why would Doyle put his entire reputation and ability to earn money at risk over one hunt? I don't buy it.

Its not like he's never gotten a 400" bull before.

[boneaddict]

There have been several guys including CAELKNUlS who hunted for this bull hard, even looking in the same place and time as Doyle.  This was not a high fenced bull if that what was being implied........His antlers don't even look it.  You can tend to spot them from a mile away.  For reference check out th eones that huntnphool posted in hi smontana thread.

[boneaddict]

and by the way....I don't liek the Mossback way  NOT AT ALL, but thats just an opinion......and the first *censored* that comes on here implying I am jealous I'll personally hunt ya down myself.  Its just an opinion.   As long as its legal they can keep monopolizing on it.  I just don't like it.