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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 11:30:37 AM »
Dave Workman, Dori Monson, David Boze

 :yike:   I'd like people who have an understanding of game management and conservation.

Yeah, well if our recent history is any indication, that's not going to happen anytime soon.
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2013, 11:33:25 AM »
Dave Workman, Dori Monson, David Boze

 :yike:   I'd like people who have an understanding of game management and conservation.

Yeah, that is why I listed those people.
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 11:42:41 AM »
A commissioner just has to know enough to know when he (or she) is getting b.s.'d by WDFW staff or the public.  They don't have to have degrees in biology. :rolleyes:  The 3 people I listed are sportsmen and passionate about our rights. :twocents:
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 11:54:49 AM »
Clint Didier might be a good choice too............... :dunno:
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 12:22:38 PM »
Me!   why not, i think that would be awesome job and just over a month from now ill have a BS in environmental science and with no "real" job opprotunities lined up why not? go from ground level grunt to boss hoss in one fell swoop. ive been a sportsman my whole life i understand the struggles of the average sportsman in WA and how things actually work in WA as far as hunting goes and to top it all off i love making decisions based on science, hard facts and numbers not emotion and hold a respectable amount of disstain for organizations like PETA, Sierra Club and wolf lovers united

so vote Uplander for Commissioner 2013  :tup:

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on a serious note id really like to have a person with an education in wildlife science in that position preferably a MS or higher that will actually manage our wildlife resource from a ecological approach with the best intentions for wildlife and sportspeople as their top priorities and not manage for $$$$ and special interest groups as it seems the DFW is doing now

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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2013, 12:41:07 PM »
Me!   why not, i think that would be awesome job and just over a month from now ill have a BS in environmental science and with no "real" job opprotunities lined up why not? go from ground level grunt to boss hoss in one fell swoop. ive been a sportsman my whole life i understand the struggles of the average sportsman in WA and how things actually work in WA as far as hunting goes and to top it all off i love making decisions based on science, hard facts and numbers not emotion and hold a respectable amount of disstain for organizations like PETA, Sierra Club and wolf lovers united

so vote Uplander for Commissioner 2013  :tup:

Hi, I'm Uplandhuntrer870 and I approve this message.  :chuckle:


on a serious note id really like to have a person with an education in wildlife science in that position preferably a MS or higher that will actually manage our wildlife resource from a ecological approach with the best intentions for wildlife and sportspeople as their top priorities and not manage for $$$$ and special interest groups as it seems the DFW is doing now

I don't think it's a job. Please anyone correct me if I am wrong, but aren't these volunteer positions where citizens serve?
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2013, 12:48:16 PM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/

http://wdfw.wa.gov/commission/serving.html

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Commissioners are paid $100 per workday, and are reimbursed for travel expenses (meals, mileage, and lodging) in the same manner as state employees on work assignment. The Commission elects a new Chair and Vice Chair every other year.

If you are interested in serving on the Commission, visit the Governor’s Office website for more information and access to the on-line application tool at: http://www.governor.wa.gov/boards/application/default.aspx or contact the Governor’s Boards and Commissions Office by telephone at (360) 902-4110.

They don't get paid much........
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2013, 12:54:30 PM »
I would like a individual with a open mind, one that isn't affraid to admit they don't know the answer to everything but has the presence of mind to listen to those that might, and surround themselves with a diverse staff with a background from every interest group.

Someone that is financially satisfied in life and can not be swayed by lobbiest money. A person with the strength to make tough decisions for the long run, even though there will be some short term pain.

Someone that can articulate the facts to the low information voter and unite the general public in a long term plan for the state.

While I'm dreaming I'd like a sheep tag this year too, but that too is beyond the realm of possibility.
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #23 on: March 26, 2013, 12:58:50 PM »
Real problem is WDFW is going in the exact direction  they are being told to go.  If they werent, we'd see a new Director and a few others.  WDFW doesnt do what we would like, they do what the higher ups tell them to do, and keep their mouths shut about it and spin a yarn ten miles long to decieve us.......or so it seems.   :twocents:

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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #24 on: March 26, 2013, 01:07:27 PM »
Me!   why not, i think that would be awesome job and just over a month from now ill have a BS in environmental science and with no "real" job opprotunities lined up why not? go from ground level grunt to boss hoss in one fell swoop. ive been a sportsman my whole life i understand the struggles of the average sportsman in WA and how things actually work in WA as far as hunting goes and to top it all off i love making decisions based on science, hard facts and numbers not emotion and hold a respectable amount of disstain for organizations like PETA, Sierra Club and wolf lovers united

so vote Uplander for Commissioner 2013  :tup:

Hi, I'm Uplandhuntrer870 and I approve this message.  :chuckle:


on a serious note id really like to have a person with an education in wildlife science in that position preferably a MS or higher that will actually manage our wildlife resource from a ecological approach with the best intentions for wildlife and sportspeople as their top priorities and not manage for $$$$ and special interest groups as it seems the DFW is doing now

I don't think it's a job. Please anyone correct me if I am wrong, but aren't these volunteer positions where citizens serve?

i was just joking around BearPaw only serious part of that post is the last few lines. i dont think i have the political savvy or the nerve for that position thats a 100% suit and tie office jockey gig, not what im looking for in

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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2013, 01:15:00 PM »
I think Ted Nugent would be good.

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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2013, 03:59:20 PM »
This is a good opportunity to be serious about considering who might be best placed in those positions.  Since Inslee is definitely anti-gun, I suspect he is also anti-hunting.  We cannot count on him to make any responsible choices regarding WDFW Commissioner appointments.  Political pressure from constituents can be a powerful tool if we stick together.

We must have responsible wildlife management based on sound and unbiased science, not decisions made to satisfy political agendas or responding to emotional outbursts from a misled public.
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2013, 04:11:00 PM »
I think people need to understand that there aren’t “wildlife commissioners” but rather “fish AND wildlife commissioners”. You need to be able to do/represent the fish AND wildlife side. If all you care about are fur and feathers then you shouldn’t be on the commission. Now are there commissioners who may care/represent one side more then the other, definitely but they need to at least show some type of understanding of both fish AND wildlife management.

I don’t think there should be a minimum years of hunting requirement. Quite honestly I know people who have hunted 30 years and know absolutely nothing about wildlife management/biology and on the flipside I know people who have hunted 5 years and know more then most 20 year “vets.”

Just because you don’t hunt doesn’t mean you are anti-hunter/know nothing about wildlife management. One of the greatest WDFW Officers in history Jon Jeschke died on-duty in 2008 in Lewis County. He came from a hunting and fishing background, but as his years went on he just could not pull the trigger on deer and elk anymore, for him he said he spent his whole life protecting deer and elk and he thought it was strange he then goes out and kills one. He continued to bird hunt dill the day he died and he wasn’t anti-hunter, he just emotionally/morally couldn’t pull the trigger on a big game animal anymore. I often see people who complain that some biologists don’t hunt/fish, for me that’s not a problem as long as they understand that hunting/fishing are part of fish/wildlife management, if they are anti-sportsmen then I have a problem. For some of these folks they spend their entire lives working with wildlife and for some they just can’t go out and kill wildlife that they help protect/manage, not a anti-hunting thing.

I have always though that there should be a requirement for WDFW commission members to serve on a lower WDFW committee first before being “promoted” to the commission. By doing this it allows the individual to get to know the inner-workings of the department. I don’t care if it’s the big game advisory council, enforcement advisory group, or the ADA group, it at least gets them to know the department.

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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2013, 04:15:21 PM »
I think people need to understand that there aren’t “wildlife commissioners” but rather “fish AND wildlife commissioners”. You need to be able to do/represent the fish AND wildlife side. If all you care about are fur and feathers then you shouldn’t be on the commission. Now are there commissioners who may care/represent one side more then the other, definitely but they need to at least show some type of understanding of both fish AND wildlife management.

I don’t think there should be a minimum years of hunting requirement. Quite honestly I know people who have hunted 30 years and know absolutely nothing about wildlife management/biology and on the flipside I know people who have hunted 5 years and know more then most 20 year “vets.”

Just because you don’t hunt doesn’t mean you are anti-hunter/know nothing about wildlife management. One of the greatest WDFW Officers in history Jon Jeschke died on-duty in 2008 in Lewis County. He came from a hunting and fishing background, but as his years went on he just could not pull the trigger on deer and elk anymore, for him he said he spent his whole life protecting deer and elk and he thought it was strange he then goes out and kills one. He continued to bird hunt dill the day he died and he wasn’t anti-hunter, he just emotionally/morally couldn’t pull the trigger on a big game animal anymore. I often see people who complain that some biologists don’t hunt/fish, for me that’s not a problem as long as they understand that hunting/fishing are part of fish/wildlife management, if they are anti-sportsmen then I have a problem. For some of these folks they spend their entire lives working with wildlife and for some they just can’t go out and kill wildlife that they help protect/manage, not a anti-hunting thing.

I have always though that there should be a requirement for WDFW commission members to serve on a lower WDFW committee first before being “promoted” to the commission. By doing this it allows the individual to get to know the inner-workings of the department. I don’t care if it’s the big game advisory council, enforcement advisory group, or the ADA group, it at least gets them to know the department.
So with all that said who would you recommend?
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Re: Who do you want for WDFW Wildlife Commissioner?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2013, 04:37:14 PM »
bigtex, we all realize it's Fish & Wildlife...  :tup:
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