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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #135 on: June 14, 2013, 09:45:52 AM »
None, Colt died... Poor thing. It was their prize colt been wanting for long time. Finally had good pregnancy.    :bash:   :hunter:
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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #136 on: June 14, 2013, 09:48:30 AM »
very interesting.

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #137 on: June 14, 2013, 09:58:58 AM »
THey have COMPLETELY different methods of takedown.   Youd seriously think theyd be able to tell in a heartbeat of what animal did the damage.   Must have been struck by a meteor.

Did you see the dog in the background of one picture? Must've been him. :bash:
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Re: Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #138 on: June 14, 2013, 10:10:25 AM »
Heard Another attacked at same family's cousin brand new Colt!!  A brand new colt 100 ft from front porch!!!
Game dept says its cougar.  They heard wolves around and other friend has cougar hound and came in same day and didn't pick up any cat scent. No claw marks anywhere!
There were wolf tracks there. Game dept said absolutely not wolf. Said to keep it quiet.    :bash:

This is less than 2 miles from my house and I know the family well (both families).  Talked to G and there were both cougar AND wolf tracks present. I agree with no scratch marks I'd be more inclined to say wolf, and after talking with the bio after the first incident I have zero trust for anything they say!

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #139 on: June 14, 2013, 10:15:22 AM »
 :yeah:  agree

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #140 on: June 14, 2013, 10:23:59 AM »
Thanks Mike.   I guess what they are saying is  "get used to it".   Sort of like crack heads I guess.  They have a right to be here too.

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #141 on: June 14, 2013, 10:47:17 AM »
The top photo looks more like a cougar bite. 4 widely space canines puncturing the skin. A wolf bite won't be so clean and it will be more of a lacerating, crushing, type wound.

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #142 on: June 14, 2013, 11:21:01 AM »
The top photo looks more like a cougar bite. 4 widely space canines puncturing the skin. A wolf bite won't be so clean and it will be more of a lacerating, crushing, type wound.
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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #143 on: June 14, 2013, 11:27:09 AM »
as for the second photo,.. i'm no expert, but isn't he back of the neck the classic cougar attack style?

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #144 on: June 14, 2013, 11:31:03 AM »
Nah! Couldn't be a cougar. Now that we have wolves, we can blame all on them. I guess now that wolves are here, cougars don't have to eat anymore. And if anyone tells you any different, they're a LIAR! Especially if they work for the government.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #145 on: June 14, 2013, 11:34:03 AM »
The top photo looks more like a cougar bite. 4 widely space canines puncturing the skin. A wolf bite won't be so clean and it will be more of a lacerating, crushing, type wound.
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I don't know if you're kidding or serious there but with just those two photos I'd go with a cougar attack. For one, a colt is small enough for a decent sized cat to try and take down, a lone wolf probably won't (not saying it isn't possible, just that it's not a good target for a solitary wolf and as many have noted here, wolves are smart). For another, wolves tend to bite and hang on. That leads to all sorts of tearing and a whole mess of teeth marks in the bite area.

Again, without seeing the whole animal I'd say it's hard to truly pass judgement, maybe the colt is missing its hamstrings and half its rear, I don't know. But with what has been posted I'd have to agree with the state on that one. Cats are pretty efficient killers and tend not to be as messy as wolves when doing the job.

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #146 on: June 14, 2013, 11:34:36 AM »
as for the second photo,.. i'm no expert, but isn't he back of the neck the classic cougar attack style?

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Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #147 on: June 14, 2013, 11:55:50 AM »
The top photo looks more like a cougar bite. 4 widely space canines puncturing the skin. A wolf bite won't be so clean and it will be more of a lacerating, crushing, type wound.
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I don't know if you're kidding or serious there but with just those two photos I'd go with a cougar attack. For one, a colt is small enough for a decent sized cat to try and take down, a lone wolf probably won't (not saying it isn't possible, just that it's not a good target for a solitary wolf and as many have noted here, wolves are smart). For another, wolves tend to bite and hang on. That leads to all sorts of tearing and a whole mess of teeth marks in the bite area.

Again, without seeing the whole animal I'd say it's hard to truly pass judgement, maybe the colt is missing its hamstrings and half its rear, I don't know. But with what has been posted I'd have to agree with the state on that one. Cats are pretty efficient killers and tend not to be as messy as wolves when doing the job.

I was kidding...going against the grain a little. You're sure to be called out though...just wait for it.
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Re: Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #148 on: June 14, 2013, 12:12:26 PM »
Thanks Mike.   I guess what they are saying is  "get used to it".   Sort of like crack heads I guess.  They have a right to be here too.

It's bad when he tells you wolves don't target unborn fetuses in cow elk or other animals, it's purely"incidental"... uh huh sure...

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Re: Re: Wenatchee Pack Attack
« Reply #149 on: June 14, 2013, 12:25:15 PM »
Thanks Mike.   I guess what they are saying is  "get used to it".   Sort of like crack heads I guess.  They have a right to be here too.

It's bad when he tells you wolves don't target unborn fetuses in cow elk or other animals, it's purely"incidental"... uh huh sure...

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They probably don't. But if you're a wolf pack it's a lot easier to take down a weaker, slower moving, pregnant cow than a healthy bull that can fight back and possibly break limbs and gore you. As a predator you want to expend as little energy taking down prey as possible. I don't know how coincidental it is, animals can smell things we can't. But I'm betting fetuses are not explicitly targeted, just pregnant momma since she can be identified in the herd.

 


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