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Now the deaths of ungulates is next. Hunters kill approx 300,000 deer yearly in the US. How many are killed by wolves across this country? The less than 100 wolves in this state?Who deserves the animals? The actual animal predators who need the meat for the literal survival of their species? Or is it the hunters who have plenty of $$$ to spend on pretzels and potato chips, tags, camps, weapons, ammo, beer and free time frolicking with their buds in the boonies?I'd go with the wolves.
We have a serious problem, two areas of the state are going to be over run with wolves before we get wolves confirmed in the 3rd wolf area. Nobody in WDFW seems to care what happens in the other two wolf areas, all they seem to care about is getting lots of wolves everywhere.
A comment on the Wenatchee World article by a guy going by the name "antzrus": QuoteNow the deaths of ungulates is next. Hunters kill approx 300,000 deer yearly in the US. How many are killed by wolves across this country? The less than 100 wolves in this state?Who deserves the animals? The actual animal predators who need the meat for the literal survival of their species? Or is it the hunters who have plenty of $$$ to spend on pretzels and potato chips, tags, camps, weapons, ammo, beer and free time frolicking with their buds in the boonies?I'd go with the wolves. This is the kind of mentality we are up against.
[, this is the same *censored* that ID, MT, and Wyoming went through. State game agencies who hide wolves and lie right up to the point that it is useless, at which time they leap to their feet and cry wolf.
Quote from: wolfbait on March 29, 2013, 09:59:04 AM[, this is the same *censored* that ID, MT, and Wyoming went through. State game agencies who hide wolves and lie right up to the point that it is useless, at which time they leap to their feet and cry wolf.And this is the mentality that makes hunter look ridiculous, the continuous accusations of lies about wolves. And, contrary to Bearpaw's assertion there were no hunts created to skew numbers to keep harvest stats high
So they want to trap an collar the wolves....Trap them, move them to the Capital Forest, cross one west side pack off the list. Why do they need to establish packs through natural migration?
Quote from: JLS on March 29, 2013, 10:20:39 AMQuote from: wolfbait on March 29, 2013, 09:59:04 AM[, this is the same *censored* that ID, MT, and Wyoming went through. State game agencies who hide wolves and lie right up to the point that it is useless, at which time they leap to their feet and cry wolf.And this is the mentality that makes hunter look ridiculous, the continuous accusations of lies about wolves. And, contrary to Bearpaw's assertion there were no hunts created to skew numbers to keep harvest stats highI may have missed it but I don't think Dale ever suggested they skewed the harvest numbers, is this what you are referring too? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121068.msg1609065.html#msg1609065
Quote from: huntnphool on March 29, 2013, 10:28:31 AMQuote from: JLS on March 29, 2013, 10:20:39 AMQuote from: wolfbait on March 29, 2013, 09:59:04 AM[, this is the same *censored* that ID, MT, and Wyoming went through. State game agencies who hide wolves and lie right up to the point that it is useless, at which time they leap to their feet and cry wolf.And this is the mentality that makes hunter look ridiculous, the continuous accusations of lies about wolves. And, contrary to Bearpaw's assertion there were no hunts created to skew numbers to keep harvest stats highI may have missed it but I don't think Dale ever suggested they skewed the harvest numbers, is this what you are referring too? http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121068.msg1609065.html#msg1609065
Quote from: wolfbait on March 29, 2013, 09:59:04 AM[, this is the same *censored* that ID, MT, and Wyoming went through. State game agencies who hide wolves and lie right up to the point that it is useless, at which time they leap to their feet and cry wolf.And this is the mentality that makes hunter look ridiculous, the continuous accusations of lies about wolves. I lived in MT for a long time during the wolf population boom, and there were no lies from that state. And, contrary to Bearpaw's assertion there were no hunts created to skew numbers to keep harvest stats high. Lots of cow elk died because of a legislative mandate that all elk populations would be reduced to "objectives" or else.
Your link doesn't work, and yes I know all about the Northern Yellowstone elk herd. I also know that the herd level was way too high for the winter range, and that hunters were killing elk by the hundreds and thousands every year during the late elk hunt. I also know that wolves have had an impact on the numbers.