NY gun confiscation is now a reality

[csaaphill]

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/04/new-york-gun-confiscation-underway/#axzz2PwVcfQsF
Manasquan, NJ --(Ammoland.com)- Remember all those who denied that firearms confiscation as a result of New York’s new gun laws was too “insane” to even consider?
 
That it was strictly in the realm of paranoid conspiracy theorists and the “it cant happen here crowd”?
 
Those were and remain some of the standard replies to anyone who even thought about the possibility, let alone gave voice to it, despite the fact that Gov Cuomo and numerous other officials made public comments about such a plan, as I discussed in my article “Feinstein & Cuomo Admit Planning Australian Style Government Gun Buy Back” .
 

Elected Officials, the media, various Gun Control Groups and their zealous forced disarmament supporters, even some firearms owners themselves all insisted it was to crazy to even consider.
 
There’s just one huge problem it is happening now in New York State!
It seems those that tried desperately to warn of such an insidious plot had hit the bullseye with their warnings after all. News came from multiple NY State based firearms enthusiast websites late Friday that confiscations of Pistol Owner ID Cards, as well as firearms and accessories has commenced in NY under the provisions of the horribly flawed, draconian and blatantly unconstitutional NY SAFE Act.
 
Those folks having their weapons and FID cards confiscated  have been discovered to have been prescribed multiple different types of psychotropic drugs, such as those for Depression or Anxiety. These are known as SSRI ( Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) class drugs and have the potential to cause serious and adverse side effects, something I wrote about extensively last week in an article that went viral in days and caused multiple Anti Gun and Progressive News Groups to initiate a concentrated denial of service hacker attack against Ammoland Shooting Sports News (see Daily KOS ” Keeping Track Of The RKBA Crowd” http://tiny.cc/ug67uw),  in an effort to keep the information from the public.
 
From NY http://tiny.cc/nyfirearms
 

“John Doe, an upstanding professional with no outstanding criminal convictions and no history of violent action received a letter from the Pistol Permit Department informing him that his license was immediately revoked upon information that he was seeing a therapist for anxiety and had been prescribed an anxiety drug. He was never suicidal, never violent, and has no criminal history. The New York State Department of Health is apparently conducting a search of medical records to determine who is being treated for anxiety drugs and using this as a basis for handgun license revocation.
 
Those are the facts. Nothing more, nothing less.
Now, before anyone trots out the old saw about how this is nothing more then a paranoid, unsubstantiated rumor on a “gun nuts” internet forum. I spoke to the Attorney of Record in this matter on the phone this morning and he confirmed that the above snippet is accurate and these cases are happening!
 

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James Tresmond Esq confirmed in our conversation that the above mentioned case is occurring in Erie County NY, it is his client that has been effected, and as yet unknown sources have seen fit to take it upon themselves to share confidential medical records with NY State Officials without authorization, a massive HIPPA violation.
 

It seems these supposedly confidential records are then compared against a list of known NY pistol license holders and letters are sent out demanding their Pistol Owner ID Cards be surrendered, as well as any firearms and accessories.
 
Here is a link to the Attorney of Record on this case, Jim Tresmond, giving a radio interview on the Tom Bauerle Show on WBEN 930AM/107.7 FM:
 
http://www.wben.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=6319907
 
This is an unprecedented violation of a Citizens 2nd, 4th, and 5th Amendment RIGHTS, brought to fruition by power and control hungry tyrants holding elected office who swore an Oath to uphold and defend the very rights they are now actively stripping from their constituents.
 
Moreover, the confiscation efforts underway in NY State have had another, albeit unintended effect. By undertaking this course of action, those in power have inadvertently pulled back the curtain on something they have suppressed from the Citizens for far to long, leaving them with precious little wiggle room to explain away their actions.
 •Either they are acknowledging that there is in fact some sort of little reported link between the prescribing of psychotropic drugs and violent behavior, thus they are somehow, at least in their own minds “justified” in their actions to preempt someone from violence.
 •Or, this is nothing more then a backdoor confiscation effort and massive abuse of governmental power unleashed on innocent Citizens.
 
Those are the only two possible explanations.
 
If anyone still feels some level of doubt regarding the veracity of this story, Attorney Tresmond welcomes anyone to visit his website tresmondlaw.com, Facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/james.tresmond.7 ), or send an email to TresmondLaw@gmail.com.
 

Mr Tresmond asks that those making inquiries be mindful and respectful of the fact that they have been deluged with inquiries in recent days and therefore a personal reply may be delayed or impossible due to the volume.
 
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[csaaphill]

and yet it's not suposed to happen here. but I guess since it's bad people it's ok?

[Atroxus]

If this is true it is quite disturbing.

I am skeptical that we are hearing all of the facts though. So far the only information I can find is regarding the same single victim and his lawyer. I would think if this is being done on a large scale there would be a lot more people coming forward about it. 

[csaaphill]

It is it's all over Patriot sites might even chekc snopes too I'm sure they should have it as well.
a general search will find several stories on it. The blaze as well.

[Atroxus]

It is it's all over Patriot sites might even check snopes too I'm sure they should have it as well.
a general search will find several stories on it. The blaze as well.

That is why I am concerned. I can *only* find it on very right leaning sites. All of which seem to be claiming, or at least implying that guns are being confiscated en mass in New York; yet none of them mention any victims except the one that is being represented by James Tresmond. It kind of makes me wonder if it's an isolated incident, with important facts being left out on the part of the victim and his lawyer.

I will gladly spread the word if this is a true story, but at this point it really seems more like the typical Chicken Little stories we see so often claiming "The sky is falling" based on incomplete or sometimes erroneous information. 

[lokidog]

Why hasn't there been a lawsuit against NY State yet?  Seems this needs to be done so that all of there BS should be halted until it is settled.   

[notellumcreek]

They are just taking guns from people who take certain types of meds is what I am reading? Unless I am missing something? I won't mind seeing guns taken out of the hands of people who need medication to stay sane, I have seen people get off their meds and they are coo coo for cocoa puffs.

[lokidog]

They are just taking guns from people who take certain types of meds is what I am reading? Unless I am missing something? I won't mind seeing guns taken out of the hands of people who need medication to stay sane, I have seen people get off their meds and they are coo coo for cocoa puffs.

The problem is that many people who are not "coo coo for cocoa puffs" will use some of these anti-depressants to help get through a rough period in their lives, but are then forever labeled and apparently not fit for gun ownership. 

[brokenvet]

It was NOT in mass.  I listened to the Glenn Beck show yesterday on AM570 from 12 -3 PM.  It was ONE, (1) guy, as in numero uno and his lawyer.  The FOX news said in was one too.

They did conclude that it COULD be just the beginning of something big due to the way HIPAA law was written. 

And how the LE found him is because the guy had a conceal carry permit or what ever they call it. 
The left wont say anything about it because they are trying to cover up what ever mess, (confiscation) they created. 
Should we panic, I do not think so, we should however prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

I am pretty sure that mentally ill people will be a huge target.  That is, people who take meds that balances the serotonin in their brain, meds like: Prozac, willbutrin, Bupropion, Zoloft, Ambiem and other brands.  More than likely that their 2A right would be taken away.

[Mudman]

All who thought this wouldnt happen, HERES YOUR SIGN!!!  Now apply this lesson to all other conspiracies and take a good long look before dismissing things.  IRS on social media now as well.  Obamacare did hire 25k agents so they need something to do.  Oh and dont forget about homeland sec. buying all this ammo etc.?  We are transitioning to a new time and with tech. privacy and secretcy are hand in hand.  Paranoid?  You bet I am more and more.  I call it protective intelligence.   I feel sorry for any people with a medical record of any mental/depression/anxiety meds of any sort.  I guess those people are psychos with AK47s killing with 10+ round clips now.    Dont worry Homeland Sec. has the manpower to get these guns away from all these bad people and save us.  CRAZY!

[jackelope]

OOPS!!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/oops-new-york-state-police-admit-to-big-mistake-in-gun-confiscation-case/

In a surprising turnaround, New York State Police have admitted that they made a mistake when they confiscated the guns and suspended the permit of an Erie County resident on the grounds of mental health.

Late Wednesday, Erie County, NY, released a statement (posted below) blaming the New York State Police for giving them bad information regarding the suspension of a pistol permit and demand to surrender firearms sent to Amherst resident David Lewis.

(Mr. Lewis was not identified in our original story, his name has since been released in conjunction with court documents filed by his attorney, Jim Tresmond.)

“Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs said that late today he received a call from the New York State Police informing him that they had provided information on the wrong person when they notified his office of someone whose permit should be suspended because of the new mental health provisions in New York’s SAFE Act,” the release begins.

“When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person … it become clear that the state did not do their job here and now we all look foolish,” the release went on to say in a quote from Clerk Jacobs.

Jacobs appeared on WBEN radio in Buffalo on Thursday morning and explained the details of this administrative debacle. Mr. Jacobs also delivered some pointed comments about how the law was written so badly that mistakes like this were bound to happen. He closed with some fairly damning statements and also asked the state to consider scrapping the bill and re-writing it.

“When you write a piece of legislation in a vacuum, without having hearings, without talking to people about how it’s going to implemented in the real world — without jeopardizing people’s rights, and putting an individual like this through a nightmarish experience, and infringe on their rights, you have to go back to the drawing board,” he said. “And I encourage the legislative leadership here and mostly our governor to take a step back and say ‘we didn’t get it right’ and let’s change this.”

After the press release was issued by the state, TheBlaze spoke with one of Mr. Lewis’ attorney, Max Tresmond.

“We won round one,” he said,  “round two will be a suit against the state for what they did to our client and his reputation.”

Here is the press release admitting to the error in this gun confiscation

[brokenvet]

All who thought this wouldnt happen, HERES YOUR SIGN!!!  Now apply this lesson to all other conspiracies and take a good long look before dismissing things.  IRS on social media now as well.  Obamacare did hire 25k agents so they need something to do.  Oh and dont forget about homeland sec. buying all this ammo etc.?  We are transitioning to a new time and with tech. privacy and secretcy are hand in hand.  Paranoid?  You bet I am more and more.  I call it protective intelligence.   I feel sorry for any people with a medical record of any mental/depression/anxiety meds of any sort.  I guess those people are psychos with AK47s killing with 10+ round clips now.    Dont worry Homeland Sec. has the manpower to get these guns away from all these bad people and save us.  CRAZY!

If you really think about, those people who do those shootings are probably Democrats, who can't get what they want.

That is about $10,000,000 Oops

[Atroxus]

Okay, so that latest article confirmed what I suspected. At this point at least, it is an isolated incident. The original article made it sound like it was a a lot worse than it was. 

I think it's important to get this type of information out when it happens, but I am so tired of people blowing stuff out of proportion to cause a panic response. I really wish there were some trustworthy media outlets that would report on this stuff with just the facts and not all of the bias and panic-mongering. 

[Mudman]

Okay, so that latest article confirmed what I suspected. At this point at least, it is an isolated incident. The original article made it sound like it was a a lot worse than it was. 

I think it's important to get this type of information out when it happens, but I am so tired of people blowing stuff out of proportion to cause a panic response. I really wish there were some trustworthy media outlets that would report on this stuff with just the facts and not all of the bias and panic-mongering. 

It doesnt matter if its isolated or a mistake.  It matters that they are indeed confiscating guns. 

[Bwana Bob]

And i use to live there. Don't think this can't happen here because it can. I've met more people in W. WA that dislike guns than I ever did in up state NY but maybe that's because the times they are a changing.