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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2013, 09:52:54 AM »
Check out the Crosman website. Specific recommendation would be a Crosman 2240 (CO2 pistol), which is pretty good for pistol practice.  The 2300T and 2300 S are more spendy, but they have some upgrades over the base models.  Also check out their customization utility that allows you to build on this basic platform.

Don't discount CO2 at least for practice, because for plinking and target practice, pumping or cocking gets old quick and could be a downer for a new shooter.

I disagree, Break Barrel's are the best. CO2 leave for inconsistent shooting groups. The psi in the canister will change every shot, Getting weaker and weaker and weaker. Break Barrel you never have to "Pay for air" and Its 100% consistent and very powerful.

I don't disagree on the greater power of the break barrel guns, such as might be desired for hunting and pest control. But as far as consistent velocity, so long as you are not shooting outside the window of usable C02 pressure, you should not have an issue with consistency in shots; it's a function of the air valve and action, in addition to the CO2 pressure remaining in the cartridge. (The 2300's are said to have 40 consistent shots from a fresh CO2.) If you go outside that window, obviously you will get reduced velocity from your initial shots.

For a point of reference, this review of the 2240 gets about 440 fps, extreme spread of about 9 fps, and a standard deviation of about 3 fps for a 10 shot string.  Probably nothing that will affect a majority of shooters' accuracy.   

Crosman 2240 CO2 pistol - AGR Episode #59

As far as what the reviewer called a usable number of shots from a single C02 cartridge, he says he got 80. That works out to about 1600-3200 shots from a box of 40 12g CO2 cartridges at $20 ($0.005/shot to $0.01/shot). For reference, pellets are in the neighborhood of $0.01/shot to $0.07/shot depending on quality (regular lead to premium hunting). Cost is really a non-issue. But yeah, CO2 cartridges are not free.

Airguns have a known issue of lower performance (fps) at lower temperatures, and CO2 guns are not excluded. (The issue is not with consistency, but with lower absolute velocities available as temperature drops). 

The problem with break barrel guns for target practice (same as for multi-pump guns) is that you are interrupting each shot with a major mechanical operation.  For hunting and pest control, it is not a problem, and the power is needed.  For target shooting, it gets monotonous and takes away from the enjoyment and focus on shooting.  It can be done, it's just not what I prefer for target practice and plinking.  I have other airguns that can be used for hunting and pest control, and my personal favorite is the Sheridan Bluestreak (it's in .20 caliber).


To the OP: note that the 2300S and 2300T are .177 caliber and can accept the same shoulder stocks as the 2240.  The custom guns (2300 KT and 2400 KT) can also be had in .177 caliber as well, including a 10.1" LW match  barrel.

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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2013, 09:57:15 AM »
I bought a gamo, but seems to me it was in the 500-800 dollar range with scope and all.   :dunno:  Dang good gun.  WAYYYYYYY better than Crossman :chuckle:   It has a higher muzzelvelocity than a 22.   Dang thing actually kicks.   

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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2013, 10:06:06 AM »
WAYYYYYYY better than Crossman :chuckle:   

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Dang thing actually kicks.   

That's most likely the spring piston cycling.  That's another idiosyncrasy with the break barrels or other spring-piston guns.  That "kick" affects accuracy and requires special hold techniques to get the most out of the gun.  I'd hate you to have to shoot the powerful .22 magnum.  That might tear your delicate arm clean from the socket.  :chuckle:

By the by, $500-800 gets you into PCP territory, and I'd be looking at the marauder. 

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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2013, 10:19:34 AM »
I picked up a gamo Whisper w/scope for about $150 (if I recall correctly) from the Cabela's bargain cave.  1200 fps with .177 pellets.  Man, that thing hits hard.  Ugly as sin, and the trigger is only slightly better than not having one at all - but I'd buy it again at that price no problem.
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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2013, 10:58:33 AM »
LOL, I didn't mean to stir the pot.  I didn't realize my post was right after a Crossman one. :chuckle:   It was in comparison to my last two crossman airguns.    I don't remember what model I have, I'll have to look. 

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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2013, 01:48:44 PM »
Air rifles are fun! I still want my benjamin rogue .357 big bore.
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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2013, 02:07:03 PM »
This is the one i have and i love it. Got rid of my out dated springer for it. much nicer to shoot :tup:http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/break-barrel/BT9M22WNP

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Re: Air Gun
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2013, 08:16:07 PM »
I have the Crossman 2100, .177 and pellets only.   Good gun, my dad gave it to me and it is still breaking in.  Pumping is a pain but I had a 760 growing up that was a great gun, this one is very similar just a little better. 

 


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