New Pack

[Olympics777]

Silkonthewetside, yes, I have a strong back, and thanks everyone for the advice.

[jjhunter]

If you're truly going that light you should purchase one of the GoLite packs. MR makes a great pack but they'd take up a third of your total pack weight. Never purchase a Sitka pack for hunting. Their clothes is great but their packs suck.

I have a GoLite Pinnacle that I used for a year and lacked out 85 pounds if bear near with it. I stopped using it because it wasn't the most comfortable pack to wear but if you are primarily concerned with weight it should fit the bill.

I had my whole Idaho buck, minus one hind quarter that I carried over my shoulder, in my flash 20 pack last year.  Worked like a champ!   

[Olympics777]

Silkonthewetside, I know this is not super relavent anymore, but I just went and double checked everything I carry,(including food) and then added some extra stuff to make sure in case I was forgetting anything, and then weighed everything individual, and everything together, and the together weight was exactly 15 pounds. So even if I had a sleeping pad and a better pack I still would be under twenty!!

[jackelope]

Not bringing rain gear into the Cascades on a multiple-day trip  in September or October is asking for trouble if you ask me. I'll cope with the extra half pound or whatever my space rain amounts to. Ruined trip, hypothermia, the list goes on. Not me.

[dreamingbig]

Not bringing rain gear into the Cascades on a multiple-day trip  in September or October is asking for trouble if you ask me. I'll cope with the extra half pound or whatever my space rain amounts to. Ruined trip, hypothermia, the list goes on. Not me.

I agree.  My 9 day pack usually comes in at 65 lbs but I do like to be comfortable. 

[fillthefreezer]

for the most part i have really light gear. i dont take much in the way of extras. and for the longest time i couldnt figure out how all these people were packing so much lighter than i can.

the only way ive found people are getting these super low pack weights is by not counting this or that or whatever when im counting everything. i dont count my rifle cus i hand carry it. i dont count bino cus they are around my neck not in my pack. etc.

[JLS]

Pretty easy to skew or distort numbers, isn't it?  I don't go by pack weight comparison, but rather by what I have and is it extraneous.

I don't count my hat cus it's on my head

[MuleySniper]

I just bought a kifaru a few weeks ago. I'm anxious to try it out. They get solid reviews.

[JustinC]

I ended up with a Kifaru and wouldnt go with anything else. 

Great choice! Which one did you get?

[Olympics777]

Sorry for "distorting and skewing numbers", but no, i don't count the weight of my hat, cause it IS on my head, not in my pack. Why would I count it in my pack weight if it never goes in my pack?

[jackelope]

I guess I always considered it gear weight. You could just put all the heavy stuff in your pockets. Why cut the handle off your toothbrush to save an ounce when it would fit perfectly in your pocket.

[JLS]

This is kind of like the thread on what gear costs.  I'm giving people a hard time about how they arrive at pack weight.  Everyone has a different way, and honestly at times it's like trying to find out what a used vehicle is really worth.  Everyone has a different way of figuring it out.

Don't get bent, it was nothing personal.  I honestly could care less how you arrive at your pack weight.  I'm much more interested in the total amount of gear that folks take along.  That is the list that actually means something.

[rosscrazyelk]

I guess I always considered it gear weight. You could just put all the heavy stuff in your pockets. Why cut the handle off your toothbrush to save an ounce when it would fit perfectly in your pocket.

Why even bring a tooth brush.   

[throttlejocky20]

I ended up with a Kifaru and wouldnt go with anything else. 

Great choice! Which one did you get?

Longhunter

[motg9_6]

Lightweight tooth brush options  look for what they call a whisp in the tooth brush isle 1 time use extremely light with tooth pic and comes with paste already on. 1 a day holds me over just dandy.