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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2013, 09:23:29 PM »
Well here is the hole....they fly great

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2013, 09:27:31 PM »
Well here is the hole....they fly great

are you going to keep using them ??

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2013, 09:37:31 PM »
not sure...I LOVE my Slick Tricks ...But I will shoot them some more..the hole was big and lots of Blood...broke the front leg.
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2013, 10:16:14 PM »
hummm, need to hear some more on this............

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2013, 10:38:13 PM »
It looks interesting but I'm skeptical about how it may perform, especially if it comes into contact with bone or make entry at an angle. Browning made something similar in the 70's with the Serpentine. They didn't work out well at all. I suspect this will most likely turn out the same way. It's nice to see people trying new things , but I don't see this one panning out.

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2013, 10:39:30 PM »
Were you disappointed with the penetration give the circumstances of the shot?
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2013, 10:50:42 PM »
It looks interesting but I'm skeptical about how it may perform, especially if it comes into contact with bone or make entry at an angle. Browning made something similar in the 70's with the Serpentine. They didn't work out well at all. I suspect this will most likely turn out the same way. It's nice to see people trying new things , but I don't see this one panning out.

it went threw the front leg ..Broke the bone....Quartering to me ...
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2013, 11:26:51 PM »
It looks interesting but I'm skeptical about how it may perform, especially if it comes into contact with bone or make entry at an angle. Browning made something similar in the 70's with the Serpentine. They didn't work out well at all. I suspect this will most likely turn out the same way. It's nice to see people trying new things , but I don't see this one panning out.

it went threw the front leg ..Broke the bone....Quartering to me ...

And the second arrow?  Time alive after first shot?  Penetration?  Bow poundage?  Distance traveled after shot?
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2013, 11:35:18 PM »
It looks interesting but I'm skeptical about how it may perform, especially if it comes into contact with bone or make entry at an angle. Browning made something similar in the 70's with the Serpentine. They didn't work out well at all. I suspect this will most likely turn out the same way. It's nice to see people trying new things , but I don't see this one panning out.

it went threw the front leg ..Broke the bone....Quartering to me ...

And the second arrow?  Time alive after first shot?  Penetration?  Bow poundage?  Distance traveled after shot?

i think it went all the way threw and he was just showing with the 2nd arrow where it came out..with that hole i dubt it would go far but ill let corey tell the story as im just guesing

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2013, 12:44:56 AM »
It looks interesting but I'm skeptical about how it may perform, especially if it comes into contact with bone or make entry at an angle. Browning made something similar in the 70's with the Serpentine. They didn't work out well at all. I suspect this will most likely turn out the same way. It's nice to see people trying new things , but I don't see this one panning out.

it went threw the front leg ..Broke the bone....Quartering to me ...

And the second arrow?  Time alive after first shot?  Penetration?  Bow poundage?  Distance traveled after shot?

i think it went all the way threw and he was just showing with the 2nd arrow where it came out..with that hole i dubt it would go far but ill let corey tell the story as im just guesing

Yeah, just questions we always ask ourselves and take notes of when field testing broadhead performance.  Sheep are quite easy to kill so I don't expect it was a long and drawn out harvest.  I've taken more than twenty and I don't remember one that was on it's feet for more than six or seven seconds.  I did not see blood on any fletching, wraps or nocks so it did seem odd to me as my arrows are usually covered even if I try to wipe them down for photos.  Cory usually shoots some dang good equipment at above average draw weights so that interests me as well.  But I am not trying to assume anything just get the details. 

Always fun to compare to our own field test studies.  Though a single field test is hard to pull trending data from.  We try to achieve a minimum of ten harvests with multiple impact zones before releasing any new broadhead to market.  As I told MLBowhunting, who did a great job of helping us test a new product, a heart shot really tells us very little.  Sometimes we learn more from that less than perfect shot that we can from a dozen heart shots as even a judo point is quite lethal when it center punches the heart.

Good to know Cory is still keeping up his Trouble Maker ways :chuckle:  I'll have to make my way over to the shop to flip him some horse pucky for using those dang things.  Maybe I'll raise his peep prices too while I'm at it :tung:
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2013, 07:01:27 AM »
ok first shot 24 yards Toxic BH, bow PSE DNA 72lbs,  Black Eagle arrow  452 Gr. he went about 50 yards? if they are up Im going to put more arrows in them...so 2nd shot was a Slick Trick Viper at 34 yards ..I hit my 1 arrow...lol... Tip to TIP...he fell 3 sec after the 2nd shot. I was happy how the BH did on the 1st shot it broke  that leg bad..

RadSav...I knew the Toxic would get ...YOUR ....GOAT....lol....Time will tell on this BH ,killing 1 thing is not yes or no for me...Im 97% going to shoot Slick Tricks but Im sure Ill have 1 or 2 Toxic in my Quiver 
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2013, 02:30:36 PM »
..I hit my 1 arrow...lol... Tip to TIP...

How cool is that!  When I shoot my first arrow at any angle it makes me stupid school girl happy.  Tip to tip would probably make me so giddy I'd join all the other girls and sign up for Facebook :rolleyes:

But 452/72# into a dang sheep I'd expect to be looking for my arrow yards beyond impact if I were shooting a Slicky, WASP or Savora.

Congratulations on the sheep. Even if you did shoot it with that stupid head just to get my goat :tung:
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2013, 10:10:25 PM »
..I hit my 1 arrow...lol... Tip to TIP...

How cool is that!  When I shoot my first arrow at any angle it makes me stupid school girl happy.  Tip to tip would probably make me so giddy I'd join all the other girls and sign up for Facebook :rolleyes:

But 452/72# into a dang sheep I'd expect to be looking for my arrow yards beyond impact if I were shooting a Slicky, WASP or Savora.

Congratulations on the sheep. Even if you did shoot it with that stupid head just to get my goat :tung:

The good thing was I was looking threw the best peep ....
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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2013, 09:41:48 AM »
These coring broadheads have never worked in the past, I don't see why they would start working now. The Bigame Curved Aux broadhead from 1956 is almost exactly the same thing. They usually jam up and get full of hair. Even when they work, they're stopped cold by bones. At best they'll go in up to the coring part when hitting bone.

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Re: Toxic broadheads...
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2013, 10:08:58 AM »
Here's the reg:
g.   It is unlawful to hunt big game animals
with a broadhead blade unless the
broadhead is unbarbed and completely
closed at the back end of the blade or
blades by a smooth, unbroken surface
starting at maximum blade width and
forming a smooth line toward the
feather end of the shaft and such line
does not angle toward the point.


It's hard to determine legality of this. Does "smooth" mean strait, or does this just refer to non-serrated blades? Unfortunately, this description is ambiguous with regards to the broadhead in question and may be up to the discretion of the gamie checking gear. Whether or not he's correct, if he cites you, you'd have to go to court to get a ruling and in the meantime, not be able to hunt until it's resolved, most likely after the end of the season you're hunting.
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