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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2013, 06:29:03 PM »
Just another kick to the groin by the state, whats next?

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 06:55:22 PM »
"The new rule on the Columbia River is consistent with our state's longstanding commitment to sustainable fisheries."

long standing commitment to sustainable fisheries?! hows about doing something that requires some actual though and a little work and getting a grip on the proliferate netting.

"everyone knows that removing a barbless hook is easier than a barbed hook"

yep just another management decision based on emotion and feeling and half thoughts, wheres the science that supports barb hook caught native fish that are returned to the water die.

with statements like those, someone please explain to me why it is again i need a degree to be a resource manager

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2013, 07:05:11 PM »
Sport fishermen catch so many fish that they use us to justify how stupid they really are  :dunno: :bash: :bash: No sense in using the word nets ...they do nothing to hurt fish populations .....Birrrrrrrrrr Dirrrrrrrrrr !

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2013, 07:27:13 PM »
The hook study that I heard that they used was for small fish.  They were concerned about the steelhead in the river before they went to sea in the first place and checked their mortality, not the returning fish.  So, basically applying a decision for 25"+ fish based on experimental numbers on 6" fish.

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2013, 08:31:58 PM »
I have about 40 trout in my pond which have all been hooked at least once with a barbed hook and they were all 10"-12."  All have survived, and are very fat. Also plenty of panfish.....
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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2013, 11:14:25 PM »
 The question I have always asked is if they have a quota on how many fish can be retained in the season then what does WDFW care how long it takes to achieve that quota? If barbed hooks mean the quota is met a couple days earlier than expected then why do they care?

I can see local business being upset if the season is cut short but at the same time it means less fuel being consumed (staying green) and less fish being injured. :dunno:

Canada sets a quota, allows barbed treble hooks and runs the season until the quota is met or the season date ends.............period. :dunno:
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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2013, 02:58:01 PM »
Well I hoped when I was first told about this it wasnt true cus a few days later we talked to a game warden and he had heard nothing about it and said if anything it eould be a year before thet did anything like this. Its a bunch of bs if u ask me. I have never hooked a so called wild fish on the cowlitz and had it not survive. Its getting to be ridiculous. Wdfw kills more fish and screws up the runs more than the sporties do but we pay the price. :bash:

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2013, 03:47:27 PM »
it's hard enough to land a teener at blue creek flossed with a barbed hook, now what will we all do  :dunno:

All joking aside, it just sucks that they are forcing this crap on us. Of the wild fish i've caught there, who knows if they are just un-clipped hatch fish anyways, none have been difficult to release, and all swam off as vigorously as they fought.

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2013, 09:57:40 PM »
  i have been barbless for at least 25 years.  you hook more fish cuz the hook goes deeper.  you land more fish cuz the hook goes deeper and you have to release more fish cuz the hook goes deeper.  thats a fact jack.  mike w

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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 10:31:41 PM »
If you bend the tip of the barbless hook in slightly towards the shank, it will make the fish stay on a lot bettter.  Think circle hook, doesn't help the flossers or snaggers, but if they strike it, they will stay on if you have any tension at all with less chance of them spitting the hook.
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Re: columbia and all tribs going barbless
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2013, 08:46:40 PM »
If you bend the tip of the barbless hook in slightly towards the shank, it will make the fish stay on a lot bettter.  Think circle hook, doesn't help the flossers or snaggers, but if they strike it, they will stay on if you have any tension at all with less chance of them spitting the hook.
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