collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?  (Read 2889 times)

Offline FANATIC

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 169
  • Location: renton
Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« on: October 04, 2008, 03:36:47 PM »
So what is your opinion of the range of each? Would an elk west of the Cascades but east of I-5 be a Roosie or a Rocky Mountain? Just wondering what my bull from this year really is. I know what P&Y says, but I wonder biologically speaking what the range boundries are. Your input is appreciated.

Offline WDFW-SUX

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 5724
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2008, 04:30:24 PM »
Here is the deal Elk were introduced in that area in the 1920's. During the depression people killed all of them because they were hungry.  In 1950's they got some more from Yellowstone and released them near Eatonville and those are the elk we have now.  They are true Rocky's that have been interbreeding with Rosies for 60 years.  So now the best way to describe them is as Mutts.

My personal opinion is that the elk down south on the western edge of st helens are the least polluted mutts and the most classic true blooded Rosie's are out by Quinault. Im sure it varies from pack to pack but in general the further west you go the more Rosieish they get.
THE WASHINGTON DEPARTMENT OF FISH AND WILDLIFE SUCKS MORE THAN EVER..........

Offline PolarBear

  • Site Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Explorer
  • ******
  • Join Date: Mar 2007
  • Posts: 10468
  • Location: Tatooine
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2008, 04:48:55 PM »
My 350 bull that I arrowed out of Randle is considered a Cascade Roosevelt.  It is a "mutt" cross breed.  The same with the elk aound St. Helens, South Rainier, etc.  I would call a lot of the elk just to the East of I-5 true Roosies but once you start climbing and getting closer to the crest they are mostly cross breeds.  The elk from Ryderwood North and the whole Olympic Peninsula are true Roosies.

Offline bucklucky

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Old Salt
  • ******
  • Join Date: Oct 2007
  • Posts: 9541
  • Location: Skookumchuck Wa.
    • Charlie Smith
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2008, 05:15:30 PM »
 :yeah:

Offline shag

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Longhunter
  • *****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 516
  • Location: Cowlitz County WA.
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2008, 08:29:37 PM »
Boone and Crockett says anything west of I-5 is a Rosie.   The olympic elk are most likley straight up Rosie.   Other than that I feel like the rest are mutts as stated above.  At the st. Helens monument they like to claim that they are Rosevelt.  I think alot of elk west of I-5 have some Rocky mtn in 'em.   I ain't no biologist just my  :twocents:
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined,

but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to
maintain a status of independence from any who might
attempt to abuse them, which would include their

own government." -- George Washington

Offline WonkyWapiti

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 1521
  • Location: Wishing I were out in the woods
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 01:53:56 AM »
I agree with the above as well.  You especially look at the herd up in North Bend and you see some of their racks which have characteristics of both the roosevelt and the rocky mountains.

Offline bigbeamhunter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Scout
  • ****
  • Join Date: Sep 2008
  • Posts: 285
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 11:08:08 AM »
thats what i have always thought that they were mixed,but i called a bull in for a friend of mine that scored 348 and it looked like a rocky . but a dna game dept.showed that the elk there were rosies. and that was 30 miles east of I-5 ,its just a different gene pool and food they eat i have hunted south east of st. helens for 20 something years and never shot a 3oo bull several 260 to 280 almost all them get to the 5th point and crown to the sixth some have seven .but look totally rosie .just my 2 cents soon as i figure out how to put pics on here i will ..

Offline bow4elk

  • Pacific Northwest Bowhunting
  • Washington For Wildlife
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Frontiersman
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2007
  • Posts: 3412
  • Location: Olympia, WA
  • Contact me at: tom@pnwbowhunting.com
    • https://www.facebook.com/pacific.northwest.bowhunting/
    • Pacific Northwest Bowhunting
Re: Roosie or Rocky Mountain?
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 11:18:29 PM »
I think everyone has got this about right.  As you know, P&Y/B&C state I-5 as the east/west boundary.

Love to see some pics of your bulls!
Official Measurer: Pope and Young Club, NW Big Game Inc., National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association, Oregon Shed Hunters
First Hunt Foundation mentor
Washington State R3 Coordinator

Pacific Northwest Bowhunting http://www.pnwbowhunting.com

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

2025 Coyotes by birdshooter1189
[Today at 01:18:06 PM]


Vail/general archery advice by JeffRaines
[Today at 10:51:27 AM]


Which Tuner? 99 Powerstroke by Cylvertip
[Today at 10:39:13 AM]


Fun little Winchester 1890 project by JDHasty
[Today at 10:24:58 AM]


Heard of the blacktail coach? by Longfield1
[Today at 08:05:23 AM]


Anybody breeding meat rabbit? by HighlandLofts
[Today at 07:35:02 AM]


Resetting dash warning lights by jackelope
[Today at 07:18:27 AM]


Fawn dropped by Rainier10
[Today at 07:11:37 AM]


Please Report Problems & Bugs Here by Rainier10
[Today at 07:10:37 AM]


Back up camera by andersonjk4
[Today at 07:08:42 AM]


WDFW's new ship by Tbar
[Yesterday at 07:07:35 AM]


Cougar Problems Toroda Creek Road Near Bodie by Elkaholic daWg
[Yesterday at 06:10:59 AM]


Wolf documentary PBS by Roslyn Rambler
[May 30, 2025, 07:56:34 PM]


New York deer by MADMAX
[May 30, 2025, 07:38:44 PM]


Halibut fishing by hiway_99
[May 30, 2025, 05:48:13 PM]


Unknown Suppressors - Whisper Pickle by Sneaky
[May 30, 2025, 04:41:08 PM]


KIFARU packs on sale by BigJs Outdoor Store
[May 30, 2025, 02:30:41 PM]


DIY Ucluelet trip by Happy Gilmore
[May 30, 2025, 08:48:54 AM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal