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Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« on: April 20, 2013, 09:37:51 AM »
It appears the number of total quality elk permits dropped 28% from 2012 to 2013. See attached Excel file for details.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2013, 09:46:47 AM »
I think we have seen the peak of the blues as far as quality goes, it's sad, I wished I'd had drawn a few years ago. Not even sure with 18 points if I'll be applying for 1 of the 2 tags they give out now (for the area I put in for).
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 10:20:12 AM »
Think the drop in permits could be wolf related?  There are suspected to be 3 packs in the Blue Mts.  Maybe WDFW is starting to allocate more animals over to anticipated predation.

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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2013, 11:00:13 AM »
 The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 11:08:52 AM »
I did some calculations on the tucannon and east wenaha muzzy elk tags, not good.  last years drawing for tuc had a total of 9,176 names in the hat for 3 tags (2 tags this year), I had 289 names in it myself.  The wenaha east muzzy had 3,462 names in the hat for 3 tags (2 this year), I had 289 in that one also. So if you break down the odds, it really makes me understand why it takes soo long and how much longer it could take.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 11:50:35 AM »
I was thinking of making an XL sheet like that myself, glad you did it instead. Now I feel even more lucky for getting my tag in 2011!! ...with 5 points  :sry:.

As for the native thing. I'm pretty sure we all know about it. However I don't see the point in saying that you have a picture of them doing blah blah blah and then not sharing the picture at all. Might as well just say nothing. :twocents:
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 01:01:31 PM »
I was thinking of making an XL sheet like that myself, glad you did it instead. Now I feel even more lucky for getting my tag in 2011!! ...with 5 points  :sry:.

As for the native thing. I'm pretty sure we all know about it. However I don't see the point in saying that you have a picture of them doing blah blah blah and then not sharing the picture at all. Might as well just say nothing. :twocents:
I agree with you, it was hard to even say it. I deleted it, without being able to post the pic's what's the point.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 01:09:06 PM »
The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.

Lentils, garbanzo beans, peas, winter wheat, and Nez Perce members are a much bigger threat to the Blue Mountain herd than wolves are.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2013, 01:19:40 PM »
The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.

Lentils, garbanzo beans, peas, winter wheat, and Nez Perce members are a much bigger threat to the Blue Mountain herd than wolves are.
The nez perce are definetly making an impact on the elk, I have family that live in Lewiston Id and they have had problems with that tribe since before I was born. I can't think of the other tribe that hunts that area but they are bad also.
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 01:32:23 PM »
I was going to say the tribes might have played a part in this.....  :twocents:

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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2013, 03:07:21 PM »
I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2013, 03:13:15 PM »
I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks

6.299% for the first and 16.69 % for the second  :tup:

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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2013, 03:16:05 PM »
thanks, how did you come up with that so I can right it down. Thanks again. :tup:
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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2013, 03:24:28 PM »
thanks, how did you come up with that so I can right it down. Thanks again. :tup:

[your points^2/((average points^2)*number of applicants)]*number of tags*100 = % odds

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Re: Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2013, 03:34:28 PM »
I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks

6.299% for the first and 16.69 % for the second  :tup:
Pretty damn sad when you see the real odds, guys with that many points probably think they have a much better chance than they really do. Even if you add more permits it still doesn't increase much.
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