Blue Mountains - Quality Elk permits drop

[Bob33]

It appears the number of total quality elk permits dropped 28% from 2012 to 2013. See attached Excel file for details.

[trophyhunt]

I think we have seen the peak of the blues as far as quality goes, it's sad, I wished I'd had drawn a few years ago. Not even sure with 18 points if I'll be applying for 1 of the 2 tags they give out now (for the area I put in for).

[snowpack]

Think the drop in permits could be wolf related?  There are suspected to be 3 packs in the Blue Mts.  Maybe WDFW is starting to allocate more animals over to anticipated predation.

[trophyhunt]

 The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.

[trophyhunt]

I did some calculations on the tucannon and east wenaha muzzy elk tags, not good.  last years drawing for tuc had a total of 9,176 names in the hat for 3 tags (2 tags this year), I had 289 names in it myself.  The wenaha east muzzy had 3,462 names in the hat for 3 tags (2 this year), I had 289 in that one also. So if you break down the odds, it really makes me understand why it takes soo long and how much longer it could take.

[Mr Mykiss]

I was thinking of making an XL sheet like that myself, glad you did it instead. Now I feel even more lucky for getting my tag in 2011!! ...with 5 points  .

As for the native thing. I'm pretty sure we all know about it. However I don't see the point in saying that you have a picture of them doing blah blah blah and then not sharing the picture at all. Might as well just say nothing.

[trophyhunt]

I was thinking of making an XL sheet like that myself, glad you did it instead. Now I feel even more lucky for getting my tag in 2011!! ...with 5 points  .

As for the native thing. I'm pretty sure we all know about it. However I don't see the point in saying that you have a picture of them doing blah blah blah and then not sharing the picture at all. Might as well just say nothing.

I agree with you, it was hard to even say it. I deleted it, without being able to post the pic's what's the point.

[JLS]

The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.

Lentils, garbanzo beans, peas, winter wheat, and Nez Perce members are a much bigger threat to the Blue Mountain herd than wolves are.

[trophyhunt]

The wolves will absolutly make a huge impact on the best elk heard in our state and one of the best in the country.

Lentils, garbanzo beans, peas, winter wheat, and Nez Perce members are a much bigger threat to the Blue Mountain herd than wolves are.

The nez perce are definetly making an impact on the elk, I have family that live in Lewiston Id and they have had problems with that tribe since before I was born. I can't think of the other tribe that hunts that area but they are bad also.

[Houndhunter]

I was going to say the tribes might have played a part in this..... 

[trophyhunt]

I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks

[kentrek]

I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks

6.299% for the first and 16.69 % for the second 

[trophyhunt]

thanks, how did you come up with that so I can right it down. Thanks again.

[kentrek]

thanks, how did you come up with that so I can right it down. Thanks again.

[your points^2/((average points^2)*number of applicants)]*number of tags*100 = % odds

[trophyhunt]

I can't seem to come up with my percentage of drawing, can someone help me with this? 9,176 names in the hat I have 289 of them, with 2 tags given out. Should be simple but I just can't figure it out. The other tag has 3,462 names in the hat, 289 of them are mine also with just 2 tags. Thanks

6.299% for the first and 16.69 % for the second 

Pretty damn sad when you see the real odds, guys with that many points probably think they have a much better chance than they really do. Even if you add more permits it still doesn't increase much.