Antlerless moose tags?

[jackelope]

Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.

[Bob33]

Anyone can apply for antlerless only permits even if you have harvested a bull.

I don't understand the confusion.

If you have harvested a bull moose in Washington, you may not harvest a bull moose again unless it was killed on a raffle, auction, or master hunter permit. You may (with a valid permit) harvest an antlerless moose in an antlerless only hunt.

If you have harvested an antlerless moose in an antlerless only hunt, you may (with a valid permit) harvest another antlerless moose, or an antlered moose.

[jackelope]

But that is not what it says in the regulations.

[Bob33]

But that is not what it says in the regulations.

I go by the WAC. What part of it is not clear?

[DeerThug]

So I followed this through the rule making process and the whole concept was to make it easier to understand who could apply.  but it sounds like it made it more confusing and actually changed who could apply.  WDFW at its best....NOT

[jackelope]

I guess the part that is unclear to me, Bob is why does the WAC  say something completely different than what the regulations say? Why do we even bother waiting for the regulations to come out if we should just have to print all of the wac codes out anyway?

[Bob33]

I'm still missing what the confusion is.

Here is the text from the 2013 regulations:

Anyone may apply,except those who have previously harvested a moose in Washington state (for exceptions, see below). An individual may only harvest one moose during his or her lifetime. However, this restriction is waived for hunters who have previously harvested a moose under an antlerless-only, masterhunter, raffle or auction hunt permit.

[jackelope]

OK...we're missing each other somewhere here, Bob. Last year, a guy who has already killed a bull could apply for cow tags and kill a cow. They have changed that this year. The only way you can kill 2 moose now is if you've already killed a cow. Now...if you killed a bull, you're done. If you have killed a cow(antlerless), you can still apply for bull hunts. Unless I'm being a complete and utter dummy, thats what the regs say  now.

[jackelope]

I am not including any raffle, auction tags, etc in any part of my conversation here. Those rules are clear to me.

[180-GRAIN]

To me it states if you have harvested a moose and it was not under antlerless, master hunter, raffle, or auction you can not hunt moose again.

[Bob33]

OK...we're missing each other somewhere here, Bob. Last year, a guy who has already killed a bull could apply for cow tags and kill a cow. They have changed that this year. The only way you can kill 2 moose now is if you've already killed a cow. Now...if you killed a bull, you're done. If you have killed a cow(antlerless), you can still apply for bull hunts. Unless I'm being a complete and utter dummy, thats what the regs say  now.

Ok. I think I can see the confusion. I do not believe it is meant to be interpreted that way.

[huntnphool]

  lol, the simple solution to the whole thing would be to not make hunts available in the license purchasing process to those not eligible.

How stupid would WDFW be to print regs that say one thing and have a online system that allows another?

[jackelope]

Well...

[huntnphool]

Well...

Doesn't really answer my question.

[Bob33]

Well...

Doesn't really answer my question.

The answer is that they don't make permit applications available to those who are not eligible.