Anyone hunt the 4 O ranch for elk?

[jstone]

You need to have big money. People have spent lots to get a big bull.

[trophyhunt]

You need to have big money. People have spent lots to get a big bull.

You don't have to pay them anything if you draw the state permit for the ranch, infact they are not allowed to charge you.

[huntnnw]

I have the current map that was sent to me from Bob Dice in Clarkston fish and game office..to my knowledge and what I have saw the land they have bought it open to the public to hunt..its clearly marked

You are the minority on 4-0 being good..I have spent 26 years steelheading down there and have not heard much good and have had 1 encounter with them..complete crap and they were in the wrong

[andersonjk4]

I had a Mt. View cow tag a couple years ago and I had permission from some land owners who bordered the 4-0.  There were a bunch of people who had drawn the 4-0 tags hunting and they had a guy patroling the land everyday.  I talked to him pretty much everyday on my way in or out of the area and he was very friendly once he knew that I had permission on the neighbors land and that I wasn't trying to sneak onto the 4-0 land.  That being said I'm pretty sure they run around the property on 4-wheelers and trucks to push the elk away from the national forrest ground to keep them on the 4-0.  I was hunting right on the edge of the 4-0 one evening and I could hear elk moving up the draw from the 4-0 up to me.  When the elk sounded like they were only a couple hundred yards below me here comes a guy on a 4-wheeler tearing down the edge of the draw and pushed the elk back down the draw.  If you draw a cow tag on the 4-0 I think you have a great chance at shooting a cow.  They seemed to be very good about making sure the people hunting there land were getting into elk.  They were just not very good at sharing with the rest of us  .  And it is correct that the WDFW is buying land from them, but a stipulation of the sale is that the 4-0 gets to keep its leases and gets to control the hunting.   

[Mr Mykiss]

And it is correct that the WDFW is buying land from them, but a stipulation of the sale is that the 4-0 gets to keep its leases and gets to control the hunting.

How does that benefit the Washington hunters (that don't draw 4-O tags) that support WDFW with their license and tag fees?

[slim9300]

And it is correct that the WDFW is buying land from them, but a stipulation of the sale is that the 4-0 gets to keep its leases and gets to control the hunting.

How does that benefit the Washington hunters (that don't draw 4-O tags) that support WDFW with their license and tag fees?

Typical idea hatched by government. No need to ask questions.


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[jstone]

SHAYDY

[andersonjk4]

And it is correct that the WDFW is buying land from them, but a stipulation of the sale is that the 4-0 gets to keep its leases and gets to control the hunting.

How does that benefit the Washington hunters (that don't draw 4-O tags) that support WDFW with their license and tag fees?

Typical idea hatched by government. No need to ask questions.


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I'm not sure about the time frame of the deal and whether the lease and hunting rights expire anytime soon.  That wasn't in the article I read about it.

[DOUBLELUNG]

I hunted spring bear in the Mountain View unit a few years ago.  The 4-O would not allow me to hunt their land, but I had no issues with traveling through on legal accesses through the ranch.  Other ranchers said they wished they could, but had leased all hunting to an outfitter - who likewise would not allow me to hunt his leases.  Would not have even asked, but it was a late snow year and all access roads to the NF land in that unit was snowed in.

Lots of elk in there, some of the bulls had cauliflowers growing on their heads.

[trophyhunt]

And it is correct that the WDFW is buying land from them, but a stipulation of the sale is that the 4-0 gets to keep its leases and gets to control the hunting.

How does that benefit the Washington hunters (that don't draw 4-O tags) that support WDFW with their license and tag fees?

The bio told me they are buying all the land from the 4-0, currently they have 2,200 arcers and play to buy a bunch more this year. He also told me if I drew the tag that ONLY the 2 permit holders would be allowed on the 2,200 acres that they bought and any land they buy before the hunts this year. He said that the 4-0 hunters were NOT allowed on the acres owned property. Paul wik is who I talked to just 2 days ago.

[mtman]

Thats because thats the only hunt going on between the 22nd and the 26th of september. I hope they would let all the 11 mt view tag holders that hunt before that date hunt that same land they bought before the 4-0 tags. It would make sense to me because that all lies in the mt. view unit.