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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 09:19:03 AM »
 Applied with 2 groups in camp .  (antlerless) One with partner with max points carrying some lower pointed others......from 7 to 1(drew last year) Other with 2 members with 13 and 15 points carrying a couple 6's down to ones (last year also when I used my 16 points to help draw for lower pointed members.)  When averaged they both come out to just over 7 points.  Could be some work involved.....maybe not. With the wolves showing up in our area we figured we better get what we can while we still can
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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 06:25:53 PM »
We apply individually since we only need one every other  year.  That is with all elk.  With six different draws we can hopefully keep some elk in the freezer.

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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 07:45:30 PM »
Still curious why people worry about points or put in for ghost points I think yhe system is a joke.I put in the first week available for riffle cow tags when I'm not bow hunting and draw almost everytime with 0  to 1 point it almost makes it seem first come first serve. Maybe I just got lucky thelast six permits in seven years.anyone else draw with no points.

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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 07:59:47 PM »
we applied individually since its all of our first year. thought we would give ourselves a fighting chance. Muzzie.

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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2013, 05:12:04 AM »
Still curious why people worry about points or put in for ghost points I think yhe system is a joke.I put in the first week available for riffle cow tags when I'm not bow hunting and draw almost everytime with 0  to 1 point it almost makes it seem first come first serve. Maybe I just got lucky thelast six permits in seven years.anyone else draw with no points.

There is no way to draw with "no points".
You get a point when you apply so you always have a point going into the draw.




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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2013, 06:26:49 AM »
18 points for cows, but I will ghost point untill my quality and bull tags are drawn. When I do apply it will be with a few of my buddies, make a fun trip out of it.
18 points why ghoste point :dunno: save your $7.
Can't help myself, I just want to make sure that there will be one drawing from this state that I will draw when I apply for it. I figured 18 might be enough.
There is no guarantee of drawing with any number of points.

For antlerless elk in 2012 there was 1 applicant with 26 points and he did not draw. There was 1 applicant with 22 points and he did not draw. There were 3 applicants with 20 points and none drew. There were 6 applicants with 19 points and none drew. There were 2 applicants with 18 points and neither drew.
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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2013, 06:32:42 AM »
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For antlerless elk in 2012 there was 1 applicant with 26 points and he did not draw. There was 1 applicant with 22 points and he did not draw. There were 3 applicants with 20 points and none drew. There were 6 applicants with 19 points and none drew. There were 2 applicants with 18 points and neither drew.

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Wow!  It would be interesting to know which hunts they applied for!

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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2013, 06:42:41 AM »
tTere is an interesting syndrome where individuals with high number of points often have worse draw odds.Tthat is because they do not wish to "waste" their points on easy to draw hunts.
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Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2013, 07:44:05 AM »
18 points for cows, but I will ghost point untill my quality and bull tags are drawn. When I do apply it will be with a few of my buddies, make a fun trip out of it.
18 points why ghoste point :dunno: save your $7.
Can't help myself, I just want to make sure that there will be one drawing from this state that I will draw when I apply for it. I figured 18 might be enough.

The sad thing is that it's probably still not 50% odds for some of the units out there. Lol.


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Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2013, 07:45:40 AM »
18 points for cows, but I will ghost point untill my quality and bull tags are drawn. When I do apply it will be with a few of my buddies, make a fun trip out of it.
18 points why ghoste point :dunno: save your $7.
Can't help myself, I just want to make sure that there will be one drawing from this state that I will draw when I apply for it. I figured 18 might be enough.
There is no guarantee of drawing with any number of points.

For antlerless elk in 2012 there was 1 applicant with 26 points and he did not draw. There was 1 applicant with 22 points and he did not draw. There were 3 applicants with 20 points and none drew. There were 6 applicants with 19 points and none drew. There were 2 applicants with 18 points and neither drew.

Lol. Beat me to it. More proof this state sucks. ;)


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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2013, 12:01:25 PM »
I did a groupe app once with my Dad... He cut my points in half!!! We didn't draw...

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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2013, 12:28:56 PM »
It was much easier to draw a cow permit before this category system they have now.  I won't even bother to apply for cow permits anymore.
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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2013, 12:39:10 PM »
Switched to individual for all my OIL tags and partnered for all Deer and Elk we have basically the same amount of points so it is a wash and if we draw quality Elk the work really begins, but all the others were antlerless or second tags
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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2013, 12:48:18 PM »
Still curious why people worry about points or put in for ghost points I think yhe system is a joke.I put in the first week available for riffle cow tags when I'm not bow hunting and draw almost everytime with 0  to 1 point it almost makes it seem first come first serve. Maybe I just got lucky thelast six permits in seven years.anyone else draw with no points.

You have obviously been shattering the odds. See above posts.
IMO, it used to be that way; before the new "improved" system.
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Re: Do you put in individually or group for cow tags?
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2013, 02:20:47 PM »
H20hunter and I put in for group archery cow tags for the colockum.

Ribka, Elkrunner and I did too.  First time I put in for a group for archery.

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