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Just strictly fed up.
« on: May 04, 2013, 12:58:42 AM »
Probably gonna take a break from practicing with the bow. Its gotten to the point to where Ive taken all my practice tips and thrown them right in the trash just so I cannot shoot. Tired of breaking arrows, losing arrows, and costing myself money due to my bow just being out of whack. I know things arent lined up correctly and yup.
Just cant do it anymore. Gotta find myself a job before I even imagine getting back to it. On the brighter side. Hunters ed is coming up on the 20th. Looking forward to seeing what thats all about  :tup:
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2013, 01:40:17 AM »
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2013, 03:08:37 AM »
Too much practice not enough time chasing critters!  Happens a lot this time of year.  Time for that new string and cables I guess.  I leave on Friday for my spring bear hunt.  Not sure when I'm coming back as I plan on staying until I've got blood on my knife and meat in the cooler.  But I will call you before I leave Colville so we can try to meet as I'm traveling through.  I can pick up the bow and get it restrung and do a hootertune for ya.  Might cost you some good home made peanut butter cookies :drool:
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2013, 07:53:14 AM »
Awesome radsav.  Better get smossysgirl on it lol  :tup:
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2013, 02:06:20 PM »
Too much practice not enough time chasing critters!  Happens a lot this time of year.  Time for that new string and cables I guess.  I leave on Friday for my spring bear hunt.  Not sure when I'm coming back as I plan on staying until I've got blood on my knife and meat in the cooler.  But I will call you before I leave Colville so we can try to meet as I'm traveling through.  I can pick up the bow and get it restrung and do a hootertune for ya.  Might cost you some good home made peanut butter cookies :drool:
Ill be chasing after them critters once I get this class out of the way for sure! Dont want to be considered a poacher now  :rolleyes:
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Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2013, 02:16:06 PM »
You can be a scouter, or a photo taker. You don't have to be hunting, Smoss!! Get out and burn some boot leather. RadSav you never cease to amaze me, man. You're a good dude.
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2013, 02:36:57 PM »
You can be a scouter, or a photo taker. You don't have to be hunting, Smoss!! Get out and burn some boot leather. RadSav you never cease to amaze me, man. You're a good dude.
You can say that again. Great dude. Yeah I would but one. I drive a cadillac so its hard to get to some spots to scout, two I wouldnt even know where to scout if I wanted to. Everything is so new to me, three my only camera is a gopro so lol Its not great for photos. No zoom and crappy macro quality. It will all come in time.
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« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2013, 12:19:49 AM »
Hey Smossy - Those colors you chose are looking very nice!  But I have to say you had that bow set up very nice.  Not sure the string and cables were the problem.  Just a little tweeking with the arrow rest and nockset height is all I could see.  But this thing is going to look WAY cooler in about 15 minutes :tup:  That might be all it was lacking :chuckle:
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« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2013, 12:50:33 AM »
RadSav you never cease to amaze me, man.

The number of cookies I can eat never ceases to amaze the wife either :chuckle:  The Girl Scouts love me :IBCOOL:
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 02:25:13 AM »
Hey Smossy - Those colors you chose are looking very nice!  But I have to say you had that bow set up very nice.  Not sure the string and cables were the problem.  Just a little tweeking with the arrow rest and nockset height is all I could see.  But this thing is going to look WAY cooler in about 15 minutes :tup:  That might be all it was lacking :chuckle:
Excited!! Cant wait to see it. Radsav you rock man :tup:
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« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2013, 04:14:28 AM »
Wow!  That's a dang good shooting bow too :tup:  Just finished the first 50 shots with the new string and cables.  Peep hasn't even begun to turn.  So I'm not even going to bother with the next 50.  Let you do that on your own.  Looks good, shoots good, and I like what you've got there.  If it had some deer or elk blood on it...it would be perfect.

I bet I've made more than 100 strings and cables for Hoyt bows in the past.  Never in that time have I had the factory specs result in perfect cam timing.  The control cable always needs twisting one way or another.  It's been bad enough that I quit making the control cables until I have the new string and power cable made and on the bow.  I then twist the old control cable in or out until I get perfect timing.  I then measure that cable and make the new one to that length.  Usually that puts the control cable 1/8" to 5/32"" from the factory spec when measured under 100# tension/ATA standard.  I need not have bothered on this bow.  First ever perfect Hoyt I've held in my hands! 

I knew they existed...but was beginning to think I would never see one :chuckle:   
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« Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 05:55:39 AM by RadSav »
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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2013, 07:42:56 AM »
Wow!  That's a dang good shooting bow too :tup:  Just finished the first 50 shots with the new string and cables.  Peep hasn't even begun to turn.  So I'm not even going to bother with the next 50.  Let you do that on your own.  Looks good, shoots good, and I like what you've got there.  If it had some deer or elk blood on it...it would be perfect.

I bet I've made more than 100 strings and cables for Hoyt bows in the past.  Never in that time have I had the factory specs result in perfect cam timing.  The control cable always needs twisting one way or another.  It's been bad enough that I quit making the control cables until I have the new string and power cable made and on the bow.  I then twist the old control cable in or out until I get perfect timing.  I then measure that cable and make the new one to that length.  Usually that puts the control cable 1/8" to 5/32"" from the factory spec when measured under 100# tension/ATA standard.  I need not have bothered on this bow.  First ever perfect Hoyt I've held in my hands! 
I knew they existed...but was beginning to think I would never see one :chuckle:   
They do exist!!! :IBCOOL:
So will the string stretch at some point or no? (Making the peep rotate) and if it does what do I do with it then? Hey you can put some bear blood on it if you want lol :tup: I wouldnt mind. Hopefully Ill be able to fill atleast a nice mulie tag with it this year, Gonna be rough first year out but ill be picking up all my tags just incase I happen to walk upon a bear or something. Appreciate everything your doin for me buddy, glad to hear you like my setup. Thats encouraging for me to know I have solid equipment. Not sure if it being in such good shape is sheer luck or just lack of taking it on the field. Ive put hundreds of shots through it though. Hate to ask for anything else but do u know how fast its shooting by any chance? And whats the weight set at? I havent tested it first hand so Ive never truely known, had it adjusted at one point and I think he said 62lbs. But the rating is 50-60lbs for the bow so not sure how that comes into play. Cant wait to see it! Ohh colors!
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2013, 11:06:37 AM »
This is awesome! You da man radsav.

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« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2013, 11:09:12 AM »
This is awesome! You da man radsav.

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Was very nice to meet you RadSav, and don't worry, next time the cookies will be homemade! We wanted you to have something for your trip back home at least :) Oh and your wife is spunky lol, she's cool I liked her.

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2013, 01:40:29 PM »
So will the string stretch at some point or no? (Making the peep rotate) and if it does what do I do with it then?

I took the time to do this one right knowing you have limited access to shops where you are at.  So floating yoke, power cable, control cable and string have all been pre-stretched @300# for at least one hour each before serving was applied. Then serving was applied while at the same 300#. The same I would do on all my own strings.  If that peep did not move in the first 50 shots I expect it will not move ever.  But there is always a chance something could give :dunno:  If that happens a good pro shop can make the adjustments. 
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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2013, 02:02:50 PM »
So will the string stretch at some point or no? (Making the peep rotate) and if it does what do I do with it then?

I took the time to do this one right knowing you have limited access to shops where you are at.  So floating yoke, power cable, control cable and string have all been pre-stretched @300# for at least one hour each before serving was applied. Then serving was applied while at the same 300#. The same I would do on all my own strings.  If that peep did not move in the first 50 shots I expect it will not move ever.  But there is always a chance something could give :dunno:  If that happens a good pro shop can make the adjustments. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2013, 02:06:09 PM »
Smossy.....hope you don't feel to much pressure....I mean....If you DON"t whack something with this bow.....

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2013, 02:16:21 PM »
Smossy.....hope you don't feel to much pressure....I mean....If you DON"t whack something with this bow.....
Oh. Ill get something. At the very least a doe.
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« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2013, 02:16:48 PM »
Mmmmm....yummy tasty fat doe.....

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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2013, 03:30:59 PM »
My first archery harvest was a small blacktail spike.  Packed that guy three miles on my back to reach the gate and my nervously waiting father.  By the time I got him there he was HUGE!  And in my mind the best tasting deer ever!  Big bucks are exciting.  But that first bow kill regardless of trophy status is pretty dang hard to beat.
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2013, 03:47:29 AM »
Was very nice to meet you RadSav, ... Oh and your wife is spunky lol, she's cool I liked her.

Feeling was mutual.

If the purchase of the neighbors house ever goes through we can reclaim our house from the ever expanding business stuff.  When that happens we will need to have you two down here for some wild critter bbq.  If you couldn't tell by my size I'm a pretty good cook ;)  I bake some pretty good pie too :drool:
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 06:28:20 AM »
Was very nice to meet you RadSav, ... Oh and your wife is spunky lol, she's cool I liked her.

Feeling was mutual.

If the purchase of the neighbors house ever goes through we can reclaim our house from the ever expanding business stuff.  When that happens we will need to have you two down here for some wild critter bbq.  If you couldn't tell by my size I'm a pretty good cook ;)  I bake some pretty good pie too :drool:

That would be awesome :)

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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2013, 07:33:21 PM »
smossy just make a trip to puyallup and see Larry at sporting goods from this board, he dialed mine in so nice, and even got my foster daughter hooked, his setup is amazing! i was a beginner at that point and was whackin bulls-eyes at 60-80 yards with a week after he set mine up. hes a great guy to BS with too  :tup:

smossys-G wheres my cookies  :yike:  :'( :'(

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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2013, 10:30:20 PM »
smossy just make a trip to puyallup and see Larry at sporting goods from this board, he dialed mine in so nice, and even got my foster daughter hooked, his setup is amazing! i was a beginner at that point and was whackin bulls-eyes at 60-80 yards with a week after he set mine up. hes a great guy to BS with too  :tup:

smossys-G wheres my cookies  :yike:  :'( :'(
Radsav currently has my bow. Larry is a good guy no doubt. Hes not at puyallup anymore hes at the federal way store. He helped me out with my first trail cam. Cookies? Psht gotta do special favors for me to get cookies!
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« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2013, 10:40:01 PM »
smossy just make a trip to puyallup and see Larry at sporting goods from this board, he dialed mine in so nice, and even got my foster daughter hooked, his setup is amazing! i was a beginner at that point and was whackin bulls-eyes at 60-80 yards with a week after he set mine up. hes a great guy to BS with too  :tup:

smossys-G wheres my cookies  :yike:  :'( :'(
Radsav currently has my bow. Larry is a good guy no doubt. Hes not at puyallup anymore hes at the federal way store. He helped me out with my first trail cam. Cookies? Psht gotta do special favors for me to get cookies!

Wait what? I thought I was the only one who did "special favors" for you?? :chuckle:

KC - whenever we all setup that fishing date I can make cookies lol :)

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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2013, 11:12:16 PM »
Wait what?  I thought you said "favor".  I didn't sign up for "special favors" Dude!  No, no, no, no, NO! :chuckle:
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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2013, 11:15:44 PM »
Oh god lol. You guys are crazzzzy. Im going to have to start watching my words verrry carefully from now on :lol4: have a chance to shoot it around today?
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2013, 11:40:43 PM »
No, put my back out last night taking out the trash.  I expect to get it out tomorrow along with my new Bowtech Experience.  Need to sight it in for the bear hunt since I sent both my Motive 7 and Anarchy off to Del for his gator hunt.  They seemed to get the job done too!  Here is a picture of the 10'/450# gator he took with my Anarchy this evening in Florida.
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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2013, 11:56:14 PM »
Jeesh man be careful, take care of yourself. We like ya around here.
Thats an awesome kill, and with a bow? Crazy, hopefully ill be able to tag some cool things as my years advance. I imagine Ill have to re-sight mine in to right since theres a new string? Goodluck on your bear hunt! Get that record breaker.
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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2013, 01:00:38 AM »
I don't imagine there will be much sighting in to be done with the new string.  I did move the rest a little (1/16") to the left and the nock set up a little (also 1/16").  But if you gang adjust the sight at 20 yards all the rest should fall right back into place.  I'm shooting your bow at 7 yards using the 30 yard pin.  Impact is 1" high and 3/8" left of the spot.  Not sure where your 30 pin crosses at close distance. :dunno:  But my bows all do it at 7 yards.  So you should be very close.

I did change your D-Loop configuration a little as well.  Kept the longer length as you requested.  But I adjusted the way it is located so the release sits directly behind the arrow nock.  That could potentially change things more than the adjustments to the rest or nockset.  You should still be close though!
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« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2013, 01:08:42 AM »
I don't imagine there will be much sighting in to be done with the new string.  I did move the rest a little (1/16") to the left and the nock set up a little (also 1/16").  But if you gang adjust the sight at 20 yards all the rest should fall right back into place.  I'm shooting your bow at 9 yards using the 30 yard pin.  Impact is 1" high and 3/8" left of the spot.  Not sure where your 30 pin crosses at close distance. :dunno:  But my bows all do it at 9 yards.  So you should be very close.

I did change your D-Loop configuration a little as well.  Kept the longer length as you requested.  But I adjusted the way it is located so the release sits directly behind the arrow nock.  That could potentially change things more than the adjustments to the rest or nockset.  You should still be close though!
Sounds good. Dont think my pins were setup to accurate distances anyhow. Dont have a range really. Gonna have to hit up my club and see what kinda ranges they have. Only been there once. Havent shot there yet.
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« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2013, 01:20:06 AM »
Ooops, I mistyped the close distance.  Seven yards is where my close distance passes the 30 pin mark.  Seven yards is also the distance I have been shooting your bow.  My curtain is nine yards, but I'm shooting your arrows into a Block.  Close enough :dunno:
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« Reply #32 on: May 10, 2013, 11:11:00 AM »
So your saying if i have a 7 yrd. Shot in the elk woods i can use my 30 yrd pin?

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« Reply #33 on: May 10, 2013, 12:00:43 PM »
So your saying if i have a 7 yrd. Shot in the elk woods i can use my 30 yrd pin?

Elk at 7 yards you can probably use ALL your pins :chuckle:  You might be slightly different as it depends on peep height and peep to sight distance.  But you should be pretty close.  At close distances it changes pretty quick as my 20 and 10 yard are the same and my five yard and 40 yard mark are the same.
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« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2013, 11:42:16 PM »
Smossy - you can pay me in cookies any day :chuckle:  Those are yummy good :tup: 

The world would be a much better place if cookies were standard currency  :chuckle:
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2013, 11:53:21 PM »
Smossy - you can pay me in cookies any day :chuckle:  Those are yummy good :tup: 

The world would be a much better place if cookies were standard currency  :chuckle:
Glad you liked em man, I love the bow it turned out greatt... Go figure about 10 minutes ago I was doing some night practice on the 3d coyotes.

3rd and last arrow released... big ol fat rabbit runs out infront of me at about 10 yards :bash: If I woulda waited like 10 more seconds to let go of that last arrow I could have nailed him to the ground.
That always happens to me, I tried to sneak out to my target and pull arrows, by the time I got my eyes back on him with an arrow nocked there was a house directly behind him. Oh well, theyre always in the yard. Just never when Im armed :chuckle:
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2013, 11:56:46 PM »
Btw those are made with whole wheat flower. Much healthier for you and makes for good pb oatmeal cookies. Just wish I woulda gotten them out a minute or so earlier.
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2013, 12:01:52 AM »
How far were the sights off?  Are you seeing any improvement in how it shoots?  Or just in how quiet it is now?
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2013, 12:02:10 AM »
Soft and crunchy made no difference.  They were all good :tup:

Sshhhhhh!  Don't say whole wheat around the wife.  She really likes them right now.  Say the words, "Whole wheat flower" and they will instantly turn to "Icky".  She's not quite right in the head :chuckle:
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2013, 12:12:05 AM »
Soft and crunchy made no difference.  They were all good :tup:

Sshhhhhh!  Don't say whole wheat around the wife.  She really likes them right now.  Say the words, "Whole wheat flower" and they will instantly turn to "Icky".  She's not quite right in the head :chuckle:
Haha thats funny.

Um the groupings are actually pretty good. I notice it does shoot straighter and for some reason I can shoot better groups at night :dunno: not quite sure why that is. I gotta get used to shooting again though arms are sore already. I like the meta its just big enough for me to see but it doesnt get in the way of my target at all.
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2013, 12:25:49 AM »
Hey!  Be careful calling my Super-Deuce 38's "meta" :chuckle:

The aperture on that SD38 is slightly larger in diameter and more true to string angle than what you had on there before.  That should definitely improve your vision in low light.
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Re: Just strictly fed up.
« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2013, 12:32:07 AM »
Hey!  Be careful calling my Super-Deuce 38's "meta" :chuckle:

The aperture on that SD38 is slightly larger in diameter and more true to string angle than what you had on there before.  That should definitely improve your vision in low light.
Isnt that what those style peeps are called or is that a brand name? If not I totally apologize, inexperience on my behalf.
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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2013, 12:52:43 AM »
No big deal. "Meta Peep" is a trade name of G5 Outdoors.  Now if Lou Grace and family were not such nice people... :boxin:  I'm pretty lucky to be in a business where all my biggest rivals are good fine people.  Fletcher's, G5 and Specialty all fine products all good people.  Make's the ATA show feel like a family reunion  :party1:
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