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[AspenBud]

Don't limit yourself to steel for non-tox. Hevi-Shot is good stuff. It's a little more spendy but you'll get better results. There are some other alternatives out there that work ok as well.

In a perfect world I would shoot a 16 gauge for everything. Carries like a 20, hits like a 12. But ammo is harder to find.

 Don't you know talking about high filluting, fancy pants ,$3 a shot ammo will get you tarred and feathered around here? come on man!

Hevi shot is great stuff, but I would want to be a proficient shot on clays and live birds before I made that kind of investment in ammo.
Hevis Shot really impressed the heck out of me last season when I used it in my 28 gauge and  folded a good sized green head at 40 yards, there were nine complete pass throughs that hit the bird.

I agree about the 16, I am a born again 16 gauger and really don't need much else for the uplands, although its a bit light for some waterfowl applications.

I like my birds to hit the ground dead. I hate ringing necks so I make the investment for better or worse. Bismuth works nicely too.   

[Stilly bay]

Don't limit yourself to steel for non-tox. Hevi-Shot is good stuff. It's a little more spendy but you'll get better results. There are some other alternatives out there that work ok as well.

In a perfect world I would shoot a 16 gauge for everything. Carries like a 20, hits like a 12. But ammo is harder to find.

 Don't you know talking about high filluting, fancy pants ,$3 a shot ammo will get you tarred and feathered around here? come on man!

Hevi shot is great stuff, but I would want to be a proficient shot on clays and live birds before I made that kind of investment in ammo.
Hevis Shot really impressed the heck out of me last season when I used it in my 28 gauge and  folded a good sized green head at 40 yards, there were nine complete pass throughs that hit the bird.

I agree about the 16, I am a born again 16 gauger and really don't need much else for the uplands, although its a bit light for some waterfowl applications.

I like my birds to hit the ground dead, because my run off EP won't retrieve, so I make the investment for better or worse.  

well since you put it that way 

[AspenBud]

Don't limit yourself to steel for non-tox. Hevi-Shot is good stuff. It's a little more spendy but you'll get better results. There are some other alternatives out there that work ok as well.

In a perfect world I would shoot a 16 gauge for everything. Carries like a 20, hits like a 12. But ammo is harder to find.

 Don't you know talking about high filluting, fancy pants ,$3 a shot ammo will get you tarred and feathered around here? come on man!

Hevi shot is great stuff, but I would want to be a proficient shot on clays and live birds before I made that kind of investment in ammo.
Hevis Shot really impressed the heck out of me last season when I used it in my 28 gauge and  folded a good sized green head at 40 yards, there were nine complete pass throughs that hit the bird.

I agree about the 16, I am a born again 16 gauger and really don't need much else for the uplands, although its a bit light for some waterfowl applications.

I like my birds to hit the ground dead, because my run off EP won't retrieve, so I make the investment for better or worse.  

well since you put it that way 

Hey, retrieving would be important to me to if finding birds was as rare an event as it is for you setter guys!   

[dmv9]

I ended up getting a Weatherby PA-08 Synthetic from Outdoor Emporium in Seattle. I just couldn't resist the price. It's an entry-level gun I wanted for hunting. It feels good and the slide is AWESOME.

Time to go to the range