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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2013, 11:08:15 PM »
"Always stay humble.  For no matter how dang good you think you are there will always be someone that comes along better."

Records are meant to be broken.  And with the exception of Cal Ripken Jr. I expect they all will.
He asked, Do you ever give a short simple answer?  I replied, "Nope."

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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2013, 11:10:47 PM »
I hear im really good all the time but I know im nowhere near what I can be or what people like you are. I can say im decent but know I have lots of growth and learning :tup:

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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2013, 11:12:24 PM »
Do you give lessons???  I'm willing to travel, lol.  I'm serious! 

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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2013, 12:03:59 AM »
Do you give lessons???  I'm willing to travel, lol.  I'm serious!

Not at this time.  I haven't done lessons for a few years.  One reason is the property where I have my range is now up for sale - never know when I'll lose that.  I'd like to buy it but 3M is a little out of my price range ;)  Second is I've just been too busy with the peep business.  I can never get completely away from the business and that's not really fair for someone who needs undivided attention.  I would like to teach four or six archers a year.  Hopefully we can get to that in a year or two as I'm looking for property away from the shop/house.

James Loesch is now doing online archery lessons http://www.archerylessonsonline.com/home.php?varset=s:508-pm:p  If he has a hand in it I expect it's a pretty good deal.  Though I do not have any personal experience with it.

If you are willing to travel Dee Wilde does classes.  As does Larry Wise.  I have great respect for both of these guys.  They were the best of the best when I was just starting out in competition.

Of course these are all target shooters.  As bowhunters you need to be aware that good target archers are not always the best in the field shooters/bowhunters.  I had the luxury to work with the late Olympic coach Al Henderson.  Gosh I think that was back in the early 80's.???  He helped me get in control of my target panic and improved my form greatly.  He also helped me to become proficient at self diagnosing my problems as they arose.  I still consider "Coach" to be the very best archery teacher/coach of all time.  And yet that did little to improve my "In the hunting field" success.  It was not until Duke Savora taught me how to aim at 'Animals' and understand 'when to shoot at animals' that my hunting success really took off.

Randy Ulmer just might be the very best at teaching both.  Though I do not think he teaches classes.  He did have copies of all his articles available on his website.  The link is still there, but the articles are not.  Hopefully that means he is writing a book!!!  If you can find access to all those articles, study them and take them all to heart I think you might as well have been schooled by the man himself.  What a great writer and a great teacher!  You are always welcome to use my shooters Mantra. ;)  It's "I am Randy Ulmer."   Hey, don't laugh - It works :chuckle:
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« Reply #34 on: May 13, 2013, 12:38:40 AM »
Thanks!! 

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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #35 on: May 13, 2013, 03:12:07 AM »
I hear im really good all the time but I know im nowhere near what I can be or what people like you are. I can say im decent but know I have lots of growth and learning :tup:

Just remember that Perfect Practice makes Perfect!  My target panic problems could have been overcome had I known what I know now.  But back then I thought more practice was the answer to my issues.  Ended up being the worst thing I could have done.  Instead of getting help and advise from someone in the know I just kept practicing my failures.  After a while those failures were quite well defined problems entrenched into my subconsious.  I've been trying to beat that target panic out of my head for over 20 years now.  Worked with some of the best coaches in the world, modified diet, photographed, video taped and seen a sports hypnotist.  And still it is a struggle.  I have good days like Saturday and bad days like all of "2008" :chuckle: :bash: :chuckle:  The only time I am completely free of it seems to be when shooting at animals.  And even then I have the one bad day now and then (refer back to the 2008 mention >:().

Sounds like you have some natural talent.  And by now you should know what a perfect shot feels like.  I encourage you, if you shoot the first six arrows of the day (without a coach) and none of those shots feel perfect - walk away from the shooting line.  Try an hour later, a day later or a week later.  If that doesn't change things - find a qualified coach.  That's not the know it all at the range, not the know it all on ArcheryTalk, and not Joe Blow at the local archery shop. A serious coach like Corey at xXx, Bobby Hickey at The Nock Point, Glen Berry, even James Loesch online.  Better to nip it in the bud than to practice your failures and live the life of frustration that follows.  In otherwords, be smarter than me. :o
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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #36 on: May 13, 2013, 06:56:35 AM »
Ok Rad my bow is being mailed to your house to get tuned and sighted lol  :tup:

Ditto this.  Either that or I need to free up a weekend to come see you and see how those tomato plants are coming along

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Re: Experience hits the long range
« Reply #37 on: May 13, 2013, 09:25:16 AM »
Thanks ive been shooting for 20 years and ive pretty much just learned on my own. Ive had bad habbits ive broken but know theres more to break still. Ive really picked up a lot of skill this last year now that people look to me for help where I work. Ive got a few people that ive been teaching proper form and they have show great talent. I just want to be up to par with my ability as who im teaching are on my heels about learning. Ive been shooting a bowtech insanity and its really tuned me up. That short brace has shown me a few things lol

 


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