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Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« on: May 16, 2013, 09:27:17 AM »
 Two guys caught poaching local buck. Two days in jail and community service.....
Really, that's all? If they keep up super hardcore punishments like that well never see poaching again.   :rolleyes:
But really....
They need to start cracking down on people like that, totally not cool.

Truly hope those guys aren't on here.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 09:32:01 AM »
If it was the guy's first offense then I think two days in jail and community service isn't a bad punishment. It is more then a lot of others that I have heard.  :bash:
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 09:34:48 AM »
If it was the guy's first offense then I think two days in jail and community service isn't a bad punishment. It is more then a lot of others that I have heard.  :bash:
I don't think its nearly enough.

People need to be "scared" to poach because of the punishment. Not "Oh hey lets just hope we don't get caught".
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 09:35:57 AM »
If it was the guy's first offense then I think two days in jail and community service isn't a bad punishment. It is more then a lot of others that I have heard.  :bash:
I don't think its nearly enough.

People need to be "scared" to poach because of the punishment. Not "Oh hey lets just hope we don't get caught".

I totally agree and I wish it was harsher punishment. All I was saying is given the punishments I have read about in the past, this ones seems to me more stiff. A step in the right direction.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 09:37:19 AM »
Sounds like they have a hunting ban for a time as well. I wonder if and what the fine was. But I agree I wish it was a stiffer penalty.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 09:41:24 AM »
There is more than news said, im sure a ban and big fine was imposed.  Youth, first offense etc.  Judge cut em slack.  You can bet a second offense would be very stiff.  Besides Jail isnt always the best way for people to learn and can often do more harm than good.  Week of comm. service is no picnic either. :dunno:
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 09:48:26 AM »
First Offense means first time caught. Rarely do people wake up one day and decide, "this is the one and only day I'm going to go out and break the law", and stick to it. Unless there are parts of the penalty we didn't hear about, they deserved a lot more for stealing from the rest of us. Poachers suck.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 10:02:48 AM »
There is more than news said, im sure a ban and big fine was imposed.  Youth, first offense etc.  Judge cut em slack.  You can bet a second offense would be very stiff.  Besides Jail isnt always the best way for people to learn and can often do more harm than good.  Week of comm. service is no picnic either. :dunno:
Community service can be written off without even doing any work. I know from experience. Not proud of it I just know how people can bypass the system. Jail is not fun. I think two weeks would make anyone think twice before killing an animal out of season/without proper licensing tags. Just sayin.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 10:12:48 AM »
Maybe make them go through what RTSpring had to endure and he didn't even do anything wrong.

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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 11:10:08 AM »
Ya, no kidding!  Its easier to plead guilty then prove your innocent.  Messed up system, guilty til proven innocent based on the police report.  Just the way it is.  Rules are made up and broken based on variable technicalities by judges and prosecuters.  Seen it first hand.  Twice.  You are right Smossy, and you know how the system doesnt work right.  They got a first offense break.  Promise we would have had different results.  Youth, mistakes are common. :twocents:  We can hope they learn from it.  Heck we lock up more people then any other country in the world.  Hows that working for us?  Smossy you are proof that people can overcome and learn from mistakes made in youth.  I have as well, and many others.  We all made dumb decisions as youth.  Im ok with these kids punishment for the first offense.  Now second time should be 6 months min.
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 11:18:27 AM »
My neighbor shot robo deer two years ago and still cant hunt.  He also lost a big chunck of change.  Sound like you get in more trouble for shooting robo deer than the real thing :bash:
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 11:24:08 AM »
 :chuckle: ROBO-DEER is one tuff  dude!  The ban and fines are a big deal to some.  I would rather sit in jail then be banned from hunting!
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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2013, 11:46:57 AM »
You probably do get in more trouble for shooting robo-deer. They are usually shot in the dark, or out of season, pt. Restriction, in front of game wardens and on video. :twocents: usually from the truck or road.

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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2013, 11:50:49 AM »
Another thought- be on the lookout for robo-wolf. I would hate to think of the punishment for that. Federal crime most likely.

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Re: Wow, Stiff punishment? Really?
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2013, 11:53:27 AM »
My neighbor shot robo deer two years ago and still cant hunt.  He also lost a big chunck of change.  Sound like you get in more trouble for shooting robo deer than the real thing :bash:

I guess that's what happens when you forget what the rules say.  :tup:
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