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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 07:53:41 PM »
I agree with a change although im taking my son out in the morning and he's got the green light to blast any buck he wants....he's been bow hunting with me for two years without a kill..
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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 07:58:03 PM »
Each of us has our own opinion on what we'd like to take.  Some want a record book animal while others are just happy with a kill... I don't care which way the regulations go as I will figure out a way to be successful and meet my expectations!

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 08:58:31 PM »
wacoyote hunter that a washington state whitetail?  wow...nice buck for washington...
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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2008, 01:13:36 PM »
Whitetail populations simply don't need the restriction. They're doing great. An occasional bad winter will knock em down, but in general, it makes sense to leave them open to any buck. It sends pressure where it belongs too. Limiting whitetails, at least in the northern forest country to multi point is simply not necessary.  Taking that deer herd that can provide general season opportunity to the masses and restricting it is all about trophy hunting and nothing about what that herd can support. Some of the open country isn't the same.

Almost always this isn't really a population debate but whether the resource should sustain max opportunity or if we should all start hunting every other year or two so that we'll get to pick over a couple deer before we shoot.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2008, 07:28:05 PM »
they should have a 2 pt min on whitetails and blacktails and give out more special permit doe tags.  you should have to draw a specials permit for any mule deer tho.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 08:05:46 AM »
There's not as many hunters in the woods these days and we are losing more and more all the time. Put a point restriction on and we will lose the last of the hold outs who are getting disgusted with all the rules and cost of hunting we have now.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2008, 08:10:00 AM »
where are you hunting. I would love to go there if you arent sseeing any people.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2008, 08:17:08 AM »
Stevens County. I'm not saying I'm not seeing hunters. Back when, the night before season opened it was bumper to bumper cars heading north on 395. Road hunter after road hunter, up and down the back roads. Shots all day long. This year 395 looked normal and no road hunters. I'm not saying we don't have hunters, there's just not as many as there use to be. I know of a lot of hunters who have quite because of the game dept. and how they manage the game.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2008, 08:23:27 AM »
There's not as many hunters in the woods these days and we are losing more and more all the time. Put a point restriction on and we will lose the last of the hold outs who are getting disgusted with all the rules and cost of hunting we have now.
I personally would love to see fewer hunters in the woods.  The folks that are giving up because of too many regulations are casual and not the hardcore or true hunters anyway.  I have said for years that a large portion of the "hunters" in the woods these days shouldn't be there.  The true hunters are not the folks who are showing disregard for property, game and local laws, it is the half assed hunters that are the largest portion of violators.  If increasing point restrictions will lower the number of half assed hunters in the woods, I'm all for it.  The major bonus is more and bigger bucks, it is a win-win situation.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2008, 08:27:05 AM »
 :yeah: well said. I have never really thought about it that way before.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2008, 08:30:26 AM »
Well said. The big bucks are still out there. They just don't get big for being stupid. The key to big buck harvest is a late hunt starting Thanksgiving day. Back in the day, we wouldn't see the real big bucks until the late buck hunt. 200 lb Whitetails.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 09:07:06 AM »
I forgot to add that there should be a few more special permits for any buck for youth, senior and disabled to keep them in the game as well.  I am not a big fan of doe permits in blacktail or mulie units but realize that is can be necessary for whities.  General seasons should have the bulk of the point restrictions.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2008, 11:59:08 AM »
I'm all for 4 pt mulie, and whities and 3 pt for blackies.   But, it'll never happen.

The biggest problem with point restrictions is all the bucks that get shot by guys who hope to find an eye gard or other phatom point.  I feel 3 point restriction on mullies is a must.  They seem to be a very sentive animal in many ways.  And need more agressive attention than either whitetails or blacktails.  I can agree with a 2 point restriction on blacktails.  Blacktails are so smart and well addaptive that thousands hunt a season and never see a deer.  3 point rule on blacktails will leave way to many bucks left to rot. 
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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2008, 12:34:16 PM »
I'm all for 4 pt mulie, and whities and 3 pt for blackies.   But, it'll never happen.

4 pt whitetails???  are you serious???  whitetails are like fly's...they're EVERYWHERE!!!  they need to give out more doe tags for whitetails!  whitetails are pushing mule deer out of certain areas and are overpopulated as it is.  if you put a 4 pt restriction on whitetails more whitetails would starve to death every year than be killed by hunters.  quit complaining about public hunting and get permission to hunt some private land and you will have a very easy time finding multiple 3 pt or bigger whitetails.  if you can't find any private land to hunt, walk at least 2 miles into the woods from the nearest road and start hunting.  you will have almost identical results it just won't be as easy.

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Re: Let 'em go- so they can grow.
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2008, 01:01:08 PM »
I'm all for 4 pt mulie, and whities and 3 pt for blackies.   But, it'll never happen.
  quit complaining about public hunting and get permission to hunt some private land and you will have a very easy time finding multiple 3 pt or bigger whitetails.  if you can't find any private land to hunt, walk at least 2 miles into the woods from the nearest road and start hunting.  you will have almost identical results it just won't be as easy.
Haahaaa... Now that is funny!  If that is directed towards me you obviously do not know my record.  I do own right at 200 acres of land in Ferry County and do not hunt it or allow anyone else to.  I also have taken close to a dozen P&Y bucks and bulls all on PUBLIC LAND.  I will not hunt private land just because it is easy, that is the lazy man's way out, IMO.  All of my P&Y bucks were taken during general archery season, on heavily hunted public land and in hell holes where the vast majority of "hunters" are too afraid to venture.  I do not complain about the lack of quality bucks because I don't feel that there is a shortage.  I support the point restriction as a way to cull out some of the half assed road hunters.  I also believe in adding more senior, youth and disabled any buck hunts to thin out the herd but the general season should be point restricted.

 


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