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M&P FTF issue
« on: May 22, 2013, 11:24:19 PM »
I have a new m&p (500-600 rounds) having failure to feed issue everything I've found so far points toward the ejector. Some rounds go in slick as could be but others jam both fmj and hp same and different manufacturers. Just wonder if anyone else has had this same issue. Help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:07 PM »
is it clean and are you shooting cheap ammo they can be a little picky on what they eat.
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 11:38:11 PM »
Its clean and this is happening when trying to chamber a round right off the get go. The mags are new and clean and it happens with a full mag or with  one round in it. It almost like the rims on some of the cases are to thick to slip easily into the extractor
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 11:47:57 PM »
Does it do it with every mag? Also, does it shoot fine, or is it just feeding the initial round?  I would look at the feed lips and the follower on the mag being off and not lifting the round up high enough in the front to hit the feed ramp.

If that's not the case you might want to try a new recoil spring.  It might just not have enough "umph" to strip the round when loading from empty, or even when firing.

If it is pretty new call S&W and send it to them... They will make it right and wont cost you anymore than shipping it to them.  It's kind of a waste to spend money on something they will fix for free... That is unless you need it faster then they can fix it, but even then a lot of gunsmiths, at least ones that are any good are usually a week or two out, if not longer... I always hesitate to take anything to a gunsmith that doesn't have work on their plate... There is usually a reason people aren't bringing things to them.
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 12:20:21 AM »
Yeah its new about a month old now and yes does it with all three mags but ig you get the round chambered it shoots like a dream put both 17 round mags through it without a hicup but both first rounds chambered
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 12:26:55 AM »
Myself and close Friends own M&Ps i have not found them to be ammo picky. I would try differrent mags, as stated above the feed lip could have gotten bent. Did you clean it when you bought it before firing it? the cosmoline can burn onto the slide rails and slow the slide enough to not cycle. also are you a new semi auto guy? I've seen this happen with guys limp wresting. If none of this works send it to them, smith has great customer service. Hope you didn't get a lemon, every company has them. good luck
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 12:28:47 AM »
wait so your having a hard time chambering the first round? are you riding the slide forward?

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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 12:43:20 AM »
Maybe recoil rod and spring assembly. Your not seeing any metal shavings in the chamber are you? brass deformation?

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Re: Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 02:20:56 AM »
Myself and close Friends own M&Ps i have not found them to be ammo picky. I would try differrent mags, as stated above the feed lip could have gotten bent. Did you clean it when you bought it before firing it? the cosmoline can burn onto the slide rails and slow the slide enough to not cycle. also are you a new semi auto guy? I've seen this happen with guys limp wresting. If none of this works send it to them, smith has great customer service. Hope you didn't get a lemon, every company has them. good luck

Yeah my M&P40c is definitely not ammo finicky at all... I have fed it all sorts of ammo from cheap as dirt reloads to high end HPs... Never had any issues..

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Re: Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 02:29:02 AM »
Yeah its new about a month old now and yes does it with all three mags but ig you get the round chambered it shoots like a dream put both 17 round mags through it without a hicup but both first rounds chambered

If it's that new, happening on all your mags and only on chambering I would venture a guess it might be shooter induced somehow...

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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2013, 01:02:03 PM »
The feed lips could be bad. Im not limp wristing it  :chuckle: and it happens by manualy dropping the slide and with the slide release. There was a video on youtube of the same thibg happening to another guys pistol ill try to post it up.
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2013, 01:19:13 PM »
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9GJfNWcVYfQt

Im having same issue feels rough and im not holding on to the slide at all
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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2013, 01:24:56 PM »
If that's the case I would try a different mag, and if that doesn't do it I would send it back to S&W for repair. I am leaning towards a bad recoil spring from what you are describing. How's the feed ramp look? Is it nice and smooth or is it rough or maybe have a burr? Without seeing the gun and the malfunction myself all I can really do is speculate...

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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2013, 01:49:52 PM »
When you are chambiring a round are you manipulating the slide to the rear and then letting go of it? Or are you assisting it as in holding on to it as it slides forward?

Most if the times I have seen malfunctions from someone chambering the first round are from the operator assisting the slide forward.

I have put somewhere around #5000 rounds through a m&p 9mm and it ran flawlessly as long as I did my part correctly.

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Re: M&P FTF issue
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2013, 01:56:07 PM »
Nope letting it go to operate like its designed to do sounds like i should just snd it back and be done with it
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