what to do with a coyote?

[lucky33]

I dont find ''leaving them lay'' right as far as ethics are concerned.

So how about instead of leaving them lay, hanging them up on a fence as some guys do?

Here's one idea- how about giving us all your address so we can drop off all our coyote carcasses on your front porch?   

 

  You guys are great.   

[xd2005]

While everyone would likely agree a single yote is not worth $250+, I would assume they would look at the combined value of a stack of them which could, theoretically, get about $250 (really big stack lol).

[lucky33]

While coyotes may not be "game animals," it seems they remain "wildlife."

RCW 77.15.160 Infractions
The following acts are infractions and must be cited and punished as provided under chapter 7.84 RCW:
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2. (c) Wasting wildlife: Killing, taking, or possessing wildlife that is not classified as big game and has a value of less than two hundred fifty dollars, and allowing the wildlife to be wasted.


RCW 77.15.170 Waste of Fish and Wildlife - Penalty

(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife if:

     (a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more or wildlife classified as big game; and

     (b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.

     (2) Waste of fish and wildlife is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke any license or tag used in the crime and shall order suspension of the person's privileges to engage in the activity in which the person committed waste of fish and wildlife for a period of one year.


Neither agreeing or disagreeing, simply putting out what look to be relevant RCW's.

It all can be read several different ways.  My interpretation was something like this.  Just trying to stay on the right side of the fence. 

[Buckmark]

How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

On page 79 of the regulations  It says,  and I quote # 2,  '' You may NOT allow game animals or game birds you have taken to be recklessly wasted.''   end quote.    A coyote is classifed as a game animal.  I am NOT saying dont kill them, but show a little class and at least do something other than let them lay. I understand not much can be done with a manged coyote, however just killing them and leaving them to rot is a great way to fuel the anti-hunters and others who would threaten what we do.    I rest my case.  You all can feel free to hate me now 

You are incorrect, coyotes are NOT classified as game animals by the wdfw...So do what you feel you need to with them, but dont tell the rest of us what we may do is wasting game..
Legal Status

The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife does not classify coyotes as game animals, but a state license is required to hunt or trap them (RCW 77.32.010). The owner, the owner's immediate family, employee, or a tenant of real property may kill or trap a coyote on that property if it is damaging crops or domestic animals (RCW 77.36.030). A license is not required in such cases. Check with your county and/or local jurisdiction for local restrictions. Except for bona fide public or private zoological parks, persons and entities are prohibited from importing a coyote into Washington State without a permit from the Department of Agriculture and written permission from the Department of Health. Persons and entities are also prohibited from acquiring, selling, bartering, exchanging, giving, purchasing, or trapping a coyote for a pet or export (WAC 246-100-191).

Ok. I wonder why they still want us to get a permit for say, coyote madness, when they are basically in the same class as carp. Im not hear to muddle over laws and rules.  I dont like coyotes much, hate wolves, and Im not sure how I feel about foxes.  Now on the flipside, would those of you that would leave a coyote lay, do the same with a wolf? Or would you take the time to pelt it out?  This thread is now the biggest can of worms Ive seen. 

If your not hear to muddle over laws and rules why try and use them to say anyone leaving a yote lay is breaking the law? Why agree with biggluke and therefore accept him calling anyone who leaves one lay the names he used, why say we are being unethical when infact we are within the rights of the law? Dont get it?
As far as wolves go, i have coytoes skulls and pelts from kills and when i get to take a wolf i will save it, my first or second, but when i get to 50+ and its not against the law to let them lay, then they will lay..

[Blacktail Sniper]

Now on the flipside, would those of you that would leave a coyote lay, do the same with a wolf? Or would you take the time to pelt it out?  This thread is now the biggest can of worms Ive seen. 

This has become a can of worms because of people taking "Personal opinions and beliefs" and using them to try to incorrectly elevate something to a higher legal level than the law recognizes.

As far as the wolf comment, a wolf pelt would be both a very rare and unique trophy and depending on fur quality, handling and condition, could meet the $250.00 value limit very easily, so you are comparing apples to oranges and just grasping at straws instead of admitting that you were incorrect in your initial statement, despite being provided with legal proof. 

[bobcat]

As I said before, nothing in nature is wasted. Coyotes are not fit for human consumption, so, let the maggots have them.

Maggots gotta eat too.

People don't eat coyotes, in general, so leaving them lay does not meet the definition of "wasted."

[lucky33]

Now on the flipside, would those of you that would leave a coyote lay, do the same with a wolf? Or would you take the time to pelt it out?  This thread is now the biggest can of worms Ive seen. 

This has become a can of worms because of people taking "Personal opinions and beliefs" and using them to try to incorrectly elevate something to a higher legal level than the law recognizes.

As far as the wolf comment, a wolf pelt would be both a very rare and unique trophy and depending on fur quality, handling and condition, could meet the $250.00 value limit very easily, so you are comparing apples to oranges and just grasping at straws instead of admitting that you were incorrect in your initial statement, despite being provided with legal proof.

You all have been very clear in posting the rcw's and what not, yes, Ill be the first to admit guilt. My intent was not to start a war here.    But I do stand behind how I feel about this. I see most all of you dont agree with me, fine.  To each his own. 

[Blacktail Sniper]

Now on the flipside, would those of you that would leave a coyote lay, do the same with a wolf? Or would you take the time to pelt it out?  This thread is now the biggest can of worms Ive seen. 

This has become a can of worms because of people taking "Personal opinions and beliefs" and using them to try to incorrectly elevate something to a higher legal level than the law recognizes.

As far as the wolf comment, a wolf pelt would be both a very rare and unique trophy and depending on fur quality, handling and condition, could meet the $250.00 value limit very easily, so you are comparing apples to oranges and just grasping at straws instead of admitting that you were incorrect in your initial statement, despite being provided with legal proof.

You all have been very clear in posting the rcw's and what not, yes, Ill be the first to admit guilt. My intent was not to start a war here.    But I do stand behind how I feel about this. I see most all of you dont agree with me, fine.  To each his own. 

Exactly.  I do not think anyone was questioning your belief or feelings, those are very personal and individual things unique to each of us.  It is admirable that you feel that a life should not be ended unless it can serve some purpose. 

What I seen as being challenged was the repeated statements that this was illegal, the comments about turning people in because they were violating a law, etc., etc.  Nothing more - nothing less.

[lucky33]

Exactly.  I do not think anyone was questioning your belief or feelings, those are very personal and individual things unique to each of us.  It is admirable that you feel that a life should not be ended unless it can serve some purpose. 

What I seen as being challenged was the repeated statements that this was illegal, the comments about turning people in because they were violating a law, etc., etc.  Nothing more - nothing less.
[/quote]  I hope we all can make up    

[Blacktail Sniper]

 

[Buckmark]

Lucky33 atleast you were man enough to stay with it and learn something.

[lucky33]

Lucky33 atleast you were man enough to stay with it and learn something.

 

[h20hunter]

Bump for BigLuke.....Still waiting for you to post the rcw that differs from what is already posted. Hope you haven't spent those ten points yet.

[Gringo31]

Just think of all the points I "gave" him. 

I know....I am an awesome guy

[Smossy]

Just think of all the points I "gave" him. 

I know....I am an awesome guy

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