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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #135 on: May 29, 2013, 01:02:29 PM »
Turn me in Luke.  Go get yourself some points.
looks like good shootin. I can't remember the last one I picked up.  Hunted with a member on here last year and he had to pick his up to get tanned because it was his first. Hope he reads this because I laughed at him then to.
Nothin wrong with takin pride in your first kill for any given species. Killing coyotes should be something to be proud of, your doing everyone a favor.
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #136 on: May 29, 2013, 01:08:48 PM »
Dear god.... you guys get all pissy when anybody says anything that differs from your beliefs.

Lol....

and yes LEGALLY you can "HUNT" them, with a small game or big game license. They are considered Wildlife, not a game species. And yes the depredation thing is different, I know.
I don't personnaly care if we all use dynomite to kill evry last one of them....

I originally stated that I've seen game wardens here in washington looking for people "Wasting" animals. Period.
And YES, I had 2 different old farm dudes tell me how they got tickets for dead coyotes laying out in thier fields, which was WHY one told me it was ok to hunt his property, but I needed to carry the animals off with me.
And NO. I dont make up rules.
I call bull. I don't believe that for a second.
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #137 on: May 29, 2013, 01:13:11 PM »
What do you do with a yote? Eat it if you're hungrey! otherwise leave em alone :twocents:

i'm assuming you are saying leave them alone as in leave them alone in the dirt dead where they fell,.. right?

I used to shoot em and leave em but have learned hunting them doesn't really put a dent in the population. Thinning them out just makes the local population more healthier. Best just to let them over populate and die off in cycles from mange and disease :twocents:

Actually I was researching this earlier when the thread was heated.. It appears they adapt and learn to possibly fear humans and socially change habits and patterns when hunted -

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Coyote population control efforts may affect the social organization and
activity patterns of coyotes.  In areas where population control is not
practiced, most coyotes exist in relatively "large" groups, whereas
coyotes in areas where populations are controlled generally exist in
"smaller" groups.  Coyotes have been reported as more active during the
day in uncontrolled [26,70] than in population-controlled areas [71].  Roy
and Dorrance [72] reported that coyotes avoided open areas near roads
during daylight hours in areas where they were hunted.

For what it's worth  :dunno:

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #138 on: May 29, 2013, 01:16:04 PM »
Personally, I use the sinew and skulls to make gruesome jewelry which I use to intimidate my enemies and attract women.
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #139 on: May 29, 2013, 01:16:59 PM »
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Actually I was researching this earlier when the thread was heated.. It appears they adapt and learn to possibly fear humans and socially change habits and patterns when hunted -

Absolutely.  Look at the wolves in Idaho, brazen as could be til the season opened.  Now they fear humans.  Just like the run-ins we are having now in Washington, the wolves do not fear humans here yet.  Someday they will.

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #140 on: May 29, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
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I used to shoot em and leave em but have learned hunting them doesn't really put a dent in the population. Thinning them out just makes the local population more healthier. Best just to let them over populate and die off in cycles from mange and disease

I think that is partially right.  I hammer them every year and there are always more....BUT....there are less in the winter when the critical habitat is reduced greatly.  I feel very strongly that putting the hammer to them dramatically helps the bird and deer populations as well.  You may have the same number of dogs come fall, but it is a young and much more inexperienced group.  I no longer see packs of 4-6 dogs working together as a very impressive killing unit.   :twocents:
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #141 on: May 29, 2013, 03:42:09 PM »
just don't let a game warden see you "Wasting" a coyote. I've heard many a farmer give tales of how game wardens were issueing tickets for wanton waste or destruction of public resourses (or something like that) just because they saw a dead coyote out in thier field.

I just do like my Dad always taught me, if you kill it, respect the animal by using all or as much of the animal you killed.
Like if I shoot a duck, I damn well eat the duck.

If I shoot a Coyote... well.... I'll atleast do something with it. Not waste it.
You should respect the land, and respect other peoples beliefs. Who knows, some stupid tree hugger may find your coyote you left behind and it may end up on the news... next thing you know they outlaw foothold traps. Oh yeah, wait... that already happened.   lol.   :chuckle:

But you know where I'm going with this. It's up to us to protect our heritage. Don't let dumb A***oles ruin it for the rest of us.

Just saying....   :tup:
Well said.  We owe that much to the animals we pursue and kill. I think just leaving them lay is immoral, and its also unlawful.  :twocents:
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #142 on: May 29, 2013, 03:43:59 PM »
"I tried to be nice and explain that Luke might want to re-think his approach. I don't believe he's going to get it. He's got way too much diarrhea of the mouth going on to allow any kind of objective listening. He also thinks he's the only person on HuntWA with ethics, which I find personally insulting and dreadfully ignorant"

Old Chinese Proverb   He who has diarrhea of the mouth usually has chit for brains!  :dunno:

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #143 on: May 29, 2013, 03:44:09 PM »
Really Lucky....unlawful to leave a coyote lay? I will not question your stance on immoral since that is your opinion. Please provide the rcw that states leaving a coyote to the buzzards is in any way a violation.

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #144 on: May 29, 2013, 03:55:21 PM »
Really Lucky....unlawful to leave a coyote lay? I will not question your stance on immoral since that is your opinion. Please provide the rcw that states leaving a coyote to the buzzards is in any way a violation.
Its not, For one its not a food animal, for two Its not a big game animal. Its not worth 250$ either. 80$ tops.
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #145 on: May 29, 2013, 03:57:52 PM »
I know this....however....I'm sick of people posting that this or that is unlawfull......Neither Lucky or Luke can provide information to back up the statement.

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #146 on: May 29, 2013, 03:59:27 PM »
just don't let a game warden see you "Wasting" a coyote. I've heard many a farmer give tales of how game wardens were issueing tickets for wanton waste or destruction of public resourses (or something like that) just because they saw a dead coyote out in thier field.

I just do like my Dad always taught me, if you kill it, respect the animal by using all or as much of the animal you killed.
Like if I shoot a duck, I damn well eat the duck.

If I shoot a Coyote... well.... I'll atleast do something with it. Not waste it.
You should respect the land, and respect other peoples beliefs. Who knows, some stupid tree hugger may find your coyote you left behind and it may end up on the news... next thing you know they outlaw foothold traps. Oh yeah, wait... that already happened.   lol.   :chuckle:

But you know where I'm going with this. It's up to us to protect our heritage. Don't let dumb A***oles ruin it for the rest of us.

Just saying....   :tup:
Well said.  We owe that much to the animals we pursue and kill. I think just leaving them lay is immoral, and its also unlawful.  :twocents:
What exactly do we owe to a coyote? If you keep the skull and hide for decoration are you then a more moral person then say a hunter who kills coyotees on ranchland saving some farm animals, or in the deep woods saving a fawn or two? If i pop a coyote in my meadow that is most likely gonna do harm to my neighbors farm animals or dog or chickens or going to eat some of the baby ducks or geese on my pond and i let it lay am i immoral? But if you do it then loop off its head, boil the skull for a mantel decoration and tan the hide for a wall hanging to show your friends, yep i killed this here old coyote and here is the proof, you are of much higher moral standards than me?
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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #147 on: May 29, 2013, 04:08:25 PM »
luke and Lucky, Have you ever seen a coyote pull the intestines out of a live calf (domestic) or seen a coyote eat the ass out of a live elk? Often times they eat their prey while it is alive because they cannot kill it quickly. In over the thirty years of ranching I have seen many calves killed by yotes. We have even had them "help deliver calves" by pulling them out of our cows while the cow was giving berth. It is a slow death... We shoot em and leave em lay. Eagles gotta eat too.

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #148 on: May 29, 2013, 04:16:00 PM »
How come Lucky and Luke haven't found the time to post the regulations?

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Re: what to do with a coyote?
« Reply #149 on: May 29, 2013, 04:25:44 PM »
well I know 2 folks that I won't be hunting with.
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