I have talked to the Moss Springs guy before at a Sportsmans Show, I was impressed and I like the "Area" they pack into. We were in the Indian Crossing portion, 10 miles in, saw lots of elk, but the mule deer were another 5-6 further in we found out after many hikes. I passed on alot of smaller bucks and ate my tag. I would do it again though in a different area.