Problem lion relocated--Duvall

[CAMPMEAT]

A friend of mine saw one last week near his front yard, I wonder why that didn't make headline news ?

[Elkrunner]

The guy heard them talking about taking him somewhere "over by Wenatchee" but he didn't get where specifically. He says its happened before. The last one they removed from his land was released at the top of snoqualmie pass. He was back 2 weeks later and killed a goat. They caught and killed that lion after strike 2.

   Same deal as the wolves, the huggers on the westside want them as long as they are not causing problems in their back yard. Put them on the eastside. 

(this comment was not directed at the westside members of this forum, I know most of you guys are as disgusted as most of us eastsiders)

Thats all we need around here is another cat.  It's becoming hard enough to see deer in the foothills anymore.

[PlateauNDN]

I'd like a cat or two for my collection if anybody has one that needs to be dealt with.  I should clarify though the cat problem has to be within an area I can legally harvest such as wenatchee for example.

[Jonathan_S]

The only place a "Problem Lion" should be relocated is a taxidermist's office

[pianoman9701]

Definitely looks like a nice sized old tom. 

I don't quite understand the reasoning to move a livestock killer, cougar can easily move 20 to 30 miles per day and he could become a problem for someone else. I don't think they move any livestock killers in the NE anymore, if they kill livestock they kill them because it has been a problem in the past when they moved a livestock killer and created a problem for someone else. Hope he stays out of trouble.

  The money spent on that could go a long way to helping ranchers pay for wolf damage. 

[CAMPMEAT]

I'd like a cat or two for my collection if anybody has one that needs to be dealt with.  I should clarify though the cat problem has to be within an area I can legally harvest such as wenatchee for example.

Ferry County needs some help. 

[mulehunter]

 

[npaull]

   Same deal as the wolves, the huggers on the westside want them as long as they are not causing problems in their back yard. Put them on the eastside. 

(this comment was not directed at the westside members of this forum, I know most of you guys are as disgusted as most of us eastsiders)

It's even worse than that, bearpaw.

I AM one of the westside tree huggers, and I STILL think it's totally ridiculous to move a livestock-killing lion. Utter waste of time, money, and resources. They should auction or lottery a hunt, kill it, and move on. The problem we have is that way too many people conflate species and habitat conservation with INDIVIDUAL animal conservation. So we end up with these ridiculous circuses.

[jackmaster]

why do they relocate them when they could just as easy have a hunter whack that llama deer killn machine     

[steeleywhopper]

I wish hound guys would quit doing the dirty deed for the WDFW. WDFW hung us hunters out to dry on the Hound hunting vote.
To keep on topic, that is a nice looking kitty, hopefully someone with a gun will find him.

[BOWHUNTER45]

I would be more than happy to fix their problem    Nice one 

[Houndhunter]

it might not come back.  Moving them after hazing them could send it packing.  Unless it was a home territory and the cat had been there a while it might just find some new space... or get killed by the tom who's home territory it just got dropped into... ?

This always gets me, from the bio in Wa, that lions manage themselves by toms killing younger lions. Do you honestly believe Donny monteralo(spell check), and his "theories"? I will admit i am as green as they come, but can't agree with his statements about how the older toms manage the lion population . Big toms push younger toms out, not kill them but push them in to more urbanized areas.

[WAcoyotehunter]

This was a pretty studly cat.  I would be suprised if it wasn't a dominant cat in the area.  It would be a bad deal if he got placed in another stud cats territory and they squared off....

I believe that mature toms will kill subadult cats when they get the chance.  I also think that ranges and territories are quite static and largely depend on the time of year, the deer populations, and lion populations.  It's a complicated system.  The current hunting system sucks for lion managament on account of the harvest being an innaccurate 'cross section' of the population.

It would be nice if we could use hounds to more selectively harvest cats according to sex/age.

[PlateauNDN]

new plan, relocate them to my house and I'll make sure they are properly relocated so as not to bother livestock or affect the general public again.

[KFhunter]

it might not come back.  Moving them after hazing them could send it packing.  Unless it was a home territory and the cat had been there a while it might just find some new space... or get killed by the tom who's home territory it just got dropped into... ?

This always gets me, from the bio in Wa, that lions manage themselves by toms killing younger lions. Do you honestly believe Donny monteralo(spell check), and his "theories"? I will admit i am as green as they come, but can't agree with his statements about how the older toms manage the lion population . Big toms push younger toms out, not kill them but push them in to more urbanized areas.

I seen a big tom skull with a hole in it, from an even bigger tom.  had to be one helluva fight 
The cat survived that fight and later on hounds got turned out on that tom with the hole in it's skull.   It killed 4 dogs.  The next morning several guides all got together and turned loose a whole slug of dogs and got it tree'd then the hunter harvested it and I got to see the skull and hear the story.  Was a very bittersweet day for a houndsman who lost 4 dogs.

We've all seen two house cats go at it..almost can't imagine two bruiser toms goin at it....which is what this relocation is going to do.