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Offline Jingles

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #75 on: June 24, 2013, 08:12:26 PM »
I personally feel that if you've got the money to put in for numerous tags in areas you haven't hunted or know nothing about you have the money to hire a guide for the area.
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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #76 on: June 24, 2013, 08:21:13 PM »
Dont really care! But once you draw, you best be in the woods doing your part.  It is what it is.  Hunters help other hunters.  I hate to see good tags wasted.

Hey and here is an idea, maybe someday they will return the favor and help you out.

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #77 on: June 24, 2013, 08:24:42 PM »
Dont really care! But once you draw, you best be in the woods doing your part.  It is what it is.  Hunters help other hunters.  I hate to see good tags wasted.

Hey and here is an idea, maybe someday they will return the favor and help you out.

Rtspring

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #78 on: June 24, 2013, 08:27:48 PM »
Take the guy I helped last year Labs07 on here! I could call him for help and he would be there as soon as he could. Thats what it is all about. Good friends!

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #79 on: June 24, 2013, 09:01:57 PM »
I guess some people are just too proud or arrogant to ask for help. :chuckle: I would take any advice on past hunts or experiences weather i know the unit or not. We are continuously learning so why not add as many tools to the box as possible?

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #80 on: June 25, 2013, 09:36:07 AM »
I've thoroughly researched and hiked every unit for every species I put in for in 6 western states.  Oh and I've done all of my homework on all of the areas that I've hunted in B.C. and Alaska too.  NOT!  I don't have the time or resources to research every potential unit I MIGHT draw in any given year, but that's part of the fun for me, doing the research AFTER you draw a tag.  I spend many hours on google earth, pouring over maps, talking with past tag holders and bio's before I ever step foot in a unit, it's all part of the experience.  Apparently that is the wrong approach, so from now on I'm gonna go hike and scout every unit in the western U.S., Canada and Alaska just in case I draw a tag in the next 25 years.:yike:

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #81 on: June 25, 2013, 09:40:29 AM »
I've thoroughly researched and hiked every unit for every species I put in for in 6 western states.  Oh and I've done all of my homework on all of the areas that I've hunted in B.C. and Alaska too.  NOT!  I don't have the time or resources to research every potential unit I MIGHT draw in any given year, but that's part of the fun for me, doing the research AFTER you draw a tag.  I spend many hours on google earth, pouring over maps, talking with past tag holders and bio's before I ever step foot in a unit, it's all part of the experience.  Apparently that is the wrong approach, so from now on I'm gonna go hike and scout every unit in the western U.S., Canada and Alaska just in case I draw a tag in the next 25 years.:yike:

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I like this approach and am going to follow suit.  I may lose my job, house, wife, and kids - but by golly I don't want to catch any flack on here so it's totally worth it and from now on everything else is on the backburner as I embark on my professional scouting career  :chuckle:

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #82 on: June 25, 2013, 09:48:21 AM »
I don't see the issue. It's their points, they can choose where to use those points. I don't care if they ever hunted there or researched the unit. Spend your points where you want, makes no difference to me. It's not my business.

 :yeah: If someone doesn't know what they're doing and misses, that usually means more quality for the next one who draws. Have at it!
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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #83 on: June 25, 2013, 10:02:01 AM »
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I'm gonna go hike and scout every unit in the western U.S., Canada and Alaska just in case I draw a tag in the next 25 years
Can I go along and photo assay it?   It would make for a hell of a notebook. 

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #84 on: June 25, 2013, 11:05:12 AM »
I've thoroughly researched and hiked every unit for every species I put in for in 6 western states.  Oh and I've done all of my homework on all of the areas that I've hunted in B.C. and Alaska too.  NOT!  I don't have the time or resources to research every potential unit I MIGHT draw in any given year, but that's part of the fun for me, doing the research AFTER you draw a tag.  I spend many hours on google earth, pouring over maps, talking with past tag holders and bio's before I ever step foot in a unit, it's all part of the experience.  Apparently that is the wrong approach, so from now on I'm gonna go hike and scout every unit in the western U.S., Canada and Alaska just in case I draw a tag in the next 25 years.:yike:
So your telling me you put in for units in six states and do not know if you will have hunting access if you draw. I doubt you put in for tags in six states and don't know you have a chance at a quality animal if you draw and  Read some of my posts in this threads I don't think you need to scout the western us for all the tags you put in for but know there is land you can hunt. So question for you if you draw a bull tag in another state would you be happy shooting 200 in bull or a rag horn for the money you will pay to travel and buy tags?

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #85 on: June 25, 2013, 11:17:35 AM »
What's the point of a forum if not to exchange information? I've never understood people who get all pissed just because someone asks for help. You'd think they charge us every time someone posts a "help me out with this tag" thread...

Calm down.

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #86 on: June 25, 2013, 11:35:27 AM »
So question for you if you draw a bull tag in another state would you be happy shooting 200 in bull or a rag horn for the money you will pay to travel and buy tags?

not everyone views inches equating success.  some want the time spent afield pursuing their quarry over killing a 'big' animal, no matter the dollar amount. 

through your posts, you appear angry that someone other than a local, born-and-bred true-born son would DARE put in for a tag in a unit they've not grown up in, hunted every year, and know each landowner by name.  To some reading this, you come off as jealous.  Is that what you're having a problem with?  that someone OTHER than you was fortunate enough to draw a tag that you've put in for for year and yet to draw?  are you the type of person that just can't stand it when an old person wins the lottery?  "But they'll DIE soon!  I would enjoy that money (tag) SO much more!  I DESERVE IT!" 

Lots of people, when they draw a sought-after tag out of their 'home' area, will only hunt that area the one time.  they are not the locals that flood the woods every fall seeking spikes in a sea of bulls and cows.  They are the guys that travel from different parts of the state/US for what has become almost an OIL tag.  and instead of helping them gain access to that hard-to-get-on land, you're here berating them for not knowing all the intricacies of any given GMU.  Lots of land owners in the desirable GMUs will help out those lucky tag recipients because they know those guys aren't knocking on their doors every year, bringing their extended family for hunts on prime land. 

I guess the one thing I've come to realize over the years is, THEY drew the tag.  Not you.  and that's OK!  if they don't fill their tag, what's it to you?  it's THEIR tag.  it's up to THEM to do with it what THEY want.  If they want to burn a dayton/tucannon/weneha tag on a spike or forked horn bull, GREAT!  THEY made that decision!  why can't we be happy that someone has the opportunity to chase an animal as beautiful as an elk in this state?

just my  :twocents:

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #87 on: June 25, 2013, 11:37:54 AM »
Im fine with helping never said I wasn't. I never once said its bad to share info, learn new area, or put in for units you have ever been to. Just make sure you can hunt what you put in for. Hunters can do what they want with there points. Its my opinion that I want to know I can hunt a tag if I draw it. I help people on quality tags in my area all the time.

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #88 on: June 25, 2013, 11:52:34 AM »
I've thoroughly researched and hiked every unit for every species I put in for in 6 western states.  Oh and I've done all of my homework on all of the areas that I've hunted in B.C. and Alaska too.  NOT!  I don't have the time or resources to research every potential unit I MIGHT draw in any given year, but that's part of the fun for me, doing the research AFTER you draw a tag.  I spend many hours on google earth, pouring over maps, talking with past tag holders and bio's before I ever step foot in a unit, it's all part of the experience.  Apparently that is the wrong approach, so from now on I'm gonna go hike and scout every unit in the western U.S., Canada and Alaska just in case I draw a tag in the next 25 years.:yike:
So your telling me you put in for units in six states and do not know if you will have hunting access if you draw. I doubt you put in for tags in six states and don't know you have a chance at a quality animal if you draw and  Read some of my posts in this threads I don't think you need to scout the western us for all the tags you put in for but know there is land you can hunt. So question for you if you draw a bull tag in another state would you be happy shooting 200 in bull or a rag horn for the money you will pay to travel and buy tags?

I  put in for tags  on public ground,  pretty sure I'll have access.   Would I shoot a 200"  bull on a tag out of state?  No,  but I sure would have a great time putting in the max amount of time and effort I could chasing him and setting new country.

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Re: Do your research before you draw tags!
« Reply #89 on: June 25, 2013, 11:53:36 AM »
4 pages over asking someone for help in an elk area that they might not have expected to draw on a forum, wow.  Thanks to the guys who arent affraid to share a little info for us rookies to get started. I have never hunted elk, I hunt everything else but.  Usually dont have time that time of year.  I didnt draw a big bull tag its a cow tag lol all this over that...Dont understand it...Most landowners that have alot of elk usually want their cow heard reduced every year, not just bulls and there is a limited number of cow tags to boot. We arent looking to to take one of the few spikes or big bulls, just a cow. Sorry for asking.
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