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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2013, 04:53:22 PM »
If you don't want people to use it then don't leave it. Pack it in, pack it out. A tree stand weighs what? 20-25lbs? Sounds simple to me. :dunno: You don't leave your car in a public parking lot with the doors unlocked, windows down and the keys in the ignition do you? No you secure it or have some sort of way to disable it when you are not in it ie: low-jack, car alarm, steering wheel club, battery/starter kill switch or even locking it up to deter theft or unauthorized use.

I'm not condoning theft, but who's to stop someone from using it and then claiming it as theirs? After all possession is 9/10ths of the law. I know that's not legal speak but it is on you to prove that it is in fact yours. Unless you have a trail cam watching your stand. Whats more important the animal you are hunting or someone trying to steal your stand? If its the stand, then it would behoove you to take it with you when you leave.

Even someone bringing their own tree stand out and placing it just below yours preventing access for you. (Yes I've seen two stands in the same tree before both empty.) Snooze you lose? Yes its a dick move but not everyone I've come across in the woods has been cordial with me during hunting season. It only takes one bad guy to ruin everyone else's reputation. It would be nice if you could trust everyone but unfortunately it doesn't happen that way.
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So you are saying if I left my truck unlocked you would climb in and help yourself like it was yours. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Probably end poorly for you like it would if you were sitting in my tree stand that I own and refuse to get out of my stand. It is one thing if you build a stand on public ground but if you are bold enough to use some one else's tree stand that they bought and hung, you are asking for trouble.

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2013, 05:12:16 PM »
I am getting really tired of this debate, year after year.................................If you build it, erect it, dig it, leave it.....And,it's on public land it's fair game. You don't have to like it, but it is just the way it is....

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2013, 05:14:55 PM »
umadbro?   :salute:
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2013, 05:21:15 PM »
If your in my stand when I get there and won't come down, straps are getting cut. :twocents: you'd have to get up pretty early to beat me to my stand.
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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2013, 05:24:13 PM »
I am getting really tired of this debate, year after year.................................If you build it, erect it, dig it, leave it.....And,it's on public land it's fair game. You don't have to like it, but it is just the way it is....

So if I leave my tent unattended while out hunting that would be fair game by your logic?

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2013, 05:33:50 PM »
No where in the hunting regs, does it mention anything about your tent, car, truck, fruit of your looms, if you can't read the regulations, and get a basic understanding............no wonder Obummer got elected twice

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2013, 05:45:11 PM »
No where in the hunting regs, does it mention anything about your tent, car, truck, fruit of your looms, if you can't read the regulations, and get a basic understanding............no wonder Obummer got elected twice

It's called respecting others property, try it some time!

If some one hangs a stand on public ground, it does NOT become public property.

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #37 on: June 25, 2013, 05:48:05 PM »
No where in the hunting regs, does it mention anything about your tent, car, truck, fruit of your looms, if you can't read the regulations, and get a basic understanding............no wonder Obummer got elected twice

It's called respecting others property, try it some time!

If some one hangs a stand on public ground, it does NOT become public property.

Now you are getting into the ethic, over the regs.....you are aware of the difference?

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Re: Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #38 on: June 25, 2013, 05:50:16 PM »

So you are saying if I left my truck unlocked you would climb in and help yourself like it was yours. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Probably end poorly for you like it would if you were sitting in my tree stand that I own and refuse to get out of my stand. It is one thing if you build a stand on public ground but if you are bold enough to use some one else's tree stand that they bought and hung, you are asking for trouble.

Me personally? No. I have higher morals than that. But if you are careless about how you treat what you spend your hard earned money on, then that to me, says something about your morals. You dgaf. No offense.

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Re: Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #39 on: June 25, 2013, 06:20:32 PM »

So you are saying if I left my truck unlocked you would climb in and help yourself like it was yours. Sounds like a bad idea to me. Probably end poorly for you like it would if you were sitting in my tree stand that I own and refuse to get out of my stand. It is one thing if you build a stand on public ground but if you are bold enough to use some one else's tree stand that they bought and hung, you are asking for trouble.

Me personally? No. I have higher morals than that. But if you are careless about how you treat what you spend your hard earned money on, then that to me, says something about your morals. You dgaf. No offense.

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so if a guy accidentally leaves his truck unlocked he has bad morals? :rolleyes: ok mr. perfect...
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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2013, 06:25:52 PM »
This goes right along with leaving your game camera out there too. Or your gun or your knife or your tv.   Leave your property in public unattended and it wont be yours forever.

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #41 on: June 25, 2013, 06:29:11 PM »
a game cam or stand has a reason for being there. a tv knife or gun serves no purpose unattended and in the woods. terrible analogy
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Re: Re: Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #42 on: June 25, 2013, 06:40:13 PM »
so if a guy accidentally leaves his truck unlocked he has bad morals? :rolleyes: ok mr. perfect...
Heh, also I don't go around checking for unlocked vehicle doors. On the other hand a sure sign someone is in your stand, is when you find a rig at your hunting entrance, with unlocked doors windows down and keys in the ignition. They were in a hurry to beat you to your stand and were obviously blind to the fact they left all three mentioned items were not secured prior to leaving. Or a bait car setup by the police. Or something worse. Never said I was perfect, but it doesn't hurt to try. But I digress. I for one, would not leave a stand on public land.

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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #43 on: June 25, 2013, 06:41:22 PM »
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Re: Public land, when to put up stand?
« Reply #44 on: June 25, 2013, 06:45:26 PM »
No where in the hunting regs, does it mention anything about your tent, car, truck, fruit of your looms, if you can't read the regulations, and get a basic understanding............no wonder Obummer got elected twice

It's called respecting others property, try it some time!

If some one hangs a stand on public ground, it does NOT become public property.

Now you are getting into the ethic, over the regs.....you are aware of the difference?

No, I am not. The regs don't say much about treestands use and what it does say pertains to DNR.

As the regs state on page 98, "Only tree stands that cause no permanent damage to trees should be used on state lands."

From WDFW website pertaining to tree stand use, "Building blinds, tree stands, camps -- no digging pits to create waterfowl blinds; no cutting trees or attaching wire, staples or nails to trees to build blinds, stands, camps; all non-natural materials used must be removed at end of hunting season; unattended blinds are available to public on “first-come-first-serve” basis; camp structures must be removed at end of trip."

http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Forest Service land differs per district you are hunting.

Go head and keep trying to BS everyone here about being able to use someone's stand that they have bought and hung TEMPORARILY on public land. It seems that you are confusing your opinion with the regulations printed by the WDFW.

 

 


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