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« on: June 25, 2013, 03:45:59 PM »
How much Gunsmithing  do you do at home?  I just started a project.  I did Blueing and in the process of glass bedding the stock. 

My question is how much have you done, or would do?? 

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2013, 05:53:49 PM »
The most I have ever done myself is free float barrels, the rest I have always sent out to the Smith. Wouldn't mind doing some bedding jobs on some basic rifles untill I get it good enough to do some of my customs myself. Im prety picky on my gunsmith work and I think it would take a few rifles to get as good as some of my gunsmiths are at bedding. Mike Bryant, Kampfeld, Holland and RD Precision do some darn sexy bedding jobs. I'm afraid I would never get any sleep laying in bed at night thinking about a sub par bedding job on one of my rifles, no joke.

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« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2013, 06:05:09 PM »
Do all my bedding, stock work, trigger work myself. Anything more, Mitch at High Mountain  takes care off!
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« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2013, 06:59:37 PM »
Thanks!  I feel the same, normally I would send it to a gunsmith but I practice on a dust collector, I'm about to take the barrel back off and lock at my work....... Oh may oh may.... 0^0 

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2013, 07:12:29 PM »
Thanks!  I feel the same, normally I would send it to a gunsmith but I practice on a dust collector, I'm about to take the barrel back off and lock at my work....... Oh may oh may.... 0^0 
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2013, 07:23:23 PM »
Really not difficult at all.  I've used accra-glas and it came out better than expected.  Youtube had really good videos on gunsmithing projects.

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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2013, 07:39:49 PM »
I've pulled plenty of Rem700 barrels and put factory barrels of one chambering or another back on and of course the factory stamping never "Times" right but they shoot. Remember when pulling a barrel, use a good barrel block. Tighten it up good and snug so the barrel won't roll on you. A good hard smack of the action wrench is the best start, if that doesn't fly. Some good old fashion heat from a heat gun will do it.

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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2013, 07:56:39 PM »
Ok, I need a gunsmith or maybe I destroyed the riffle????  I tried to get the screws out to take the barrel back off to look at the bedding, I failed.  Screws are not moving.  Than I thought oh well leave them in remove tape and that's it, then I realize the trigger is not moving either.... :-( I think the epoxy/glass went everywhere.... Now I'm pissed, not a great loss but I hate failure!!!!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 08:09:56 PM »
Carefully vice the stocked rifle, inverted with action screws facing up. Get a tight fitting hollow ground screwdriver..hold it firmly, and bottomed out in the slot..then give it a couple sharp raps to stretch the thread contact, and break the screws loose..then grab the barrel with the action facing down, then CAREFULLY rap the cheek piece of the stock on a padded surface. If you used enough release agent initially, this shoul loosen it no problem! Good luck and keep us posted! :)
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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 08:14:49 PM »
Ok, I need a gunsmith or maybe I destroyed the riffle????  I tried to get the screws out to take the barrel back off to look at the bedding, I failed.  Screws are not moving.  Than I thought oh well leave them in remove tape and that's it, then I realize the trigger is not moving either.... :-( I think the epoxy/glass went everywhere.... Now I'm pissed, not a great loss but I hate failure!!!!!!!!
yikes.  I swap the screws with studs and coat them with a filler that I can apply release agent to, then use the wraps/vices/etc to put the compression to the bedding.  What epoxy did you use?

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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 08:17:23 PM »
Ok, I need a gunsmith or maybe I destroyed the riffle????  I tried to get the screws out to take the barrel back off to look at the bedding, I failed.  Screws are not moving.  Than I thought oh well leave them in remove tape and that's it, then I realize the trigger is not moving either.... :-( I think the epoxy/glass went everywhere.... Now I'm pissed, not a great loss but I hate failure!!!!!!!!

The dreaded mechanical lock! Yikes! >:( Hope it works out for you.

Here is a exellent write up by a exellent gunsmith for action bedding, straight forward with pics and instructions that even I could understand :).

I have wanted to try it myself and printed this out but have never got to it.

Bedding a action:

http://www.rdprecision.net/diy2.html

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 08:30:10 PM »
I used Miles Gilbert Bedrock Glass bedding.  Nothing is moving, no screw, no trigger, nothing.  I really screwed this up bad.  Maybe a smith can fix my mistakes, lol

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« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 08:33:02 PM »
I used Miles Gilbert Bedrock Glass bedding.  Nothing is moving, no screw, no trigger, nothing.  I really screwed this up bad.  Maybe a smith can fix my mistakes, lol

A guy has to start somewhere! Sometimes the first step is the toughest one. :tup:

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« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 08:33:28 PM »
If you can get it to me in Wenatchee, would be glad to fix it for you. Have seen this before, so no worries, it is fixable my freind!! :tup:
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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 08:36:43 PM »
How much release agent did you use?  Did you use clay to block the bedding compound from oozing into areas it was not supposed to go? 

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 08:42:54 PM »
How much release agent did you use?  Did you use clay to block the bedding compound from oozing into areas it was not supposed to go? 

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I was wondering the same thing, if the bedding oozed into the trigger area and the threads of the action screws, it could be a real issue and not fixable without destroying the stock and trigger to save the barreled action.

Good thing is, stocks and triggers are plentiful. :tup:

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« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2013, 08:45:00 PM »
How much release agent did you use?  Did you use clay to block the bedding compound from oozing into areas it was not supposed to go? 

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I used all of the bottle that came with it, I also covered all screws with it.  All in all I used a lot. 

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2013, 08:45:54 PM »
If you can get it to me in Wenatchee, would be glad to fix it for you. Have seen this before, so no worries, it is fixable my freind!! :tup:

THANK YOU!! I may have to take you up on that!!!  I need a reason to lock at your inventory anyways, lol.

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2013, 08:54:18 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2013, 08:59:01 PM »
How much release agent did you use?  Did you use clay to block the bedding compound from oozing into areas it was not supposed to go? 

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PM replied!  Thank you!!!!!! 

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2013, 10:35:11 PM »
Unless you really slathered the compound on, the aforementioned tip should pop her loose. But again, the offer stands to lend a hand. We bed a good share of rifles every week, and prefer Dev- Con for most applications, including skim jobs. My guess is its some ooze tensioning on the sides of the trigger lock work, unless again, it's was really piled on.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2013, 12:35:56 PM »
typically after the bedding is cured the action will appear to be stuck because you just created a 1:1 fit, hold the gun by the stock in your hands and hit the bottom of the barrel on a covered table and it should pop it loose if you clayed the right spots and got good coverage with the release agent.
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2013, 12:57:50 PM »
typically after the bedding is cured the action will appear to be stuck because you just created a 1:1 fit, hold the gun by the stock in your hands and hit the bottom of the barrel on a covered table and it should pop it loose if you clayed the right spots and got good coverage with the release agent.

I tried but I can't get the screws to move, the middle one comes out but the other two are stuck. 

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2013, 08:37:58 PM »
Thank you again mrolen and mountainman for your help!  The riffle is fixed and I love my new Kimber Custom Eclipse II.  You have and awesome shop and all your staff is super friendly and knowledgeable.  THANK YOU!!!  You have a new regular customer even if it takes me two hours to get there, lol.

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2013, 09:04:55 PM »
Anytime my freind! Was our pleasure!
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