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Do you support a tax structure that encourages open public access for outdoor recreation on timber lands?

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Author Topic: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.  (Read 35880 times)

Offline Goshawk

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Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« on: June 26, 2013, 04:47:37 PM »
I keep hearing a rumor that a citizen's initiative has been filed to create two tiers of timber land tax rates. One for open access and another for closed or pay to use. Anyone here know anything about it?
Thanks.
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2013, 05:06:00 PM »
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 05:12:36 PM »
I have not heard anything, but would love to know more and possibly help make it happen.




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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 05:16:11 PM »
That would be perfect!!! I hope it happens, I'll sign. It would be about time and it makes perfect sense, I wonder what the timber guys on here think about it (if any)?
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2013, 05:43:05 PM »
This could be good as long as it doesn't mess with unincorperated private land owners under "xxx" acres and live on the property.


tax the hell out of cooperate timber companies if they don't allow public access  :tup:

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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2013, 05:51:05 PM »
This could be good as long as it doesn't mess with unincorperated private land owners under "xxx" acres and live on the property.


tax the hell out of cooperate timber companies if they don't allow public access  :tup:

 Sound good to me also :tup:
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2013, 09:08:01 PM »
Haven't heard a thing about it but I would sign a petition to get this on the ballot !!

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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2013, 09:14:09 PM »
I hope they do, I'll get people to sign it!! Timber land giants have been walking on us for years!!
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2013, 09:16:37 PM »
Does it rescind a current tax break (already in place but being violated by the new permit systems) or create a whole new tax?  If the latter, I won't support.

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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2013, 09:32:26 PM »
I would support it if written properly of course.  Devils in the details.  Let WEYCO see our WRATH!!
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2013, 09:42:51 PM »
I have yelled for this for years! Where do I sign?
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2013, 09:39:37 AM »
What I heard is this.
IF WYCO does proceed with the sale of permission to access their lands, then that would create an “affected class of people” that would then start the initiative process. If they do not, then there are no “damaged parties” to proceed from.

I’m sure that besides hunters, just about everyone in the Puget Sound basin cities will happily pile onto something that gives open access for the tax breaks they enjoy. Not too much sympathy for WYCO and timber companies in Seattle these days.

And to answer a question about how it would be written, I don’t know. Haven’t seen anything yet, that’s why I’m looking. Companies like Manke Lumber Co. should be unaffected since they have an open to hunting policy. Others will have to figure out if it’s worth the public relations nightmare to fight it.
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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2013, 09:56:16 AM »
The access permits go on sale today:


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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2013, 11:24:11 AM »
What I heard is this.
IF WYCO does proceed with the sale of permission to access their lands, then that would create an “affected class of people” that would then start the initiative process. If they do not, then there are no “damaged parties” to proceed from.

I’m sure that besides hunters, just about everyone in the Puget Sound basin cities will happily pile onto something that gives open access for the tax breaks they enjoy. Not too much sympathy for WYCO and timber companies in Seattle these days.

And to answer a question about how it would be written, I don’t know. Haven’t seen anything yet, that’s why I’m looking. Companies like Manke Lumber Co. should be unaffected since they have an open to hunting policy. Others will have to figure out if it’s worth the public relations nightmare to fight it.

Hancock already does it so the affected class is already there.  I'm all in for an initiative (well written) or a proposed bill, or a series of bills that look at either the property tax value, or roll any income from leases and fees into the current timber excise tax.

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Re: Citizen's Initiative for timber tax rate change.
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2013, 12:41:02 PM »
On the flip side - our average 2x4 and plywood rates should see an increase when their overhead skyrockets because they are having to invest in more personnel to patrol and clean up the washing machines, fridges, beer cans.  Oh and mass inventory loss when forest fires hit.

I hate how much I have to pay to get in there. I REALLY hate it.... but man people are complete pricks when it comes to dumping in the forest.

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