The year I had the 2x2 tag the only big 2 point i could find was over 30" and his main beam out out and up rather than out and forward ( kind of hard to explain) and he had little 5 or 6 inch times that came straight forward so when he looked at you he only looked like a spike. The guy that had control of the land he was on wouldn't let me go in and shoot him. One of those really dude you nor anybody you hunt with can shoot him so all he is going to do is continue to breed and spread bad genetics.