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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #45 on: August 15, 2013, 02:03:10 PM »
We all, as hunters, should foot the bill to make up a bunch of offical looking posters that we can all take out with us and hang up at sites like these, that read: "This land access brought to you by Hunters. Thank you for visiting. Buy Ducks stamps to help conserve wildlife."
Maybe with a big picture of a happy smile right under it.    :chuckle:

Make some up, I'll help distribute

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #46 on: August 15, 2013, 02:23:17 PM »
We all, as hunters, should foot the bill to make up a bunch of offical looking posters that we can all take out with us and hang up at sites like these, that read: "This land access brought to you by Hunters. Thank you for visiting. Buy Ducks stamps to help conserve wildlife."
Maybe with a big picture of a happy smile right under it.    :chuckle:
Great idea!  but i'm sure they'd tear them down as fast as we could put them :bash:
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2013, 11:16:56 PM »
We all, as hunters, should foot the bill to make up a bunch of offical looking posters that we can all take out with us and hang up at sites like these, that read: "This land access brought to you by Hunters. Thank you for visiting. Buy Ducks stamps to help conserve wildlife."
Maybe with a big picture of a happy smile right under it.    :chuckle:

I like this idea. I may draft something up. I'll also include the text from RCW 77.15.180;

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RCW 77.15.180
Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear — Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases a wild animal from another person's trap without permission;

     (b) Springs, pulls up, damages, possesses, or destroys another person's trap without the owner's permission; or

     (c) Interferes with recreational gear used to take fish or shellfish.

     (2) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree is a misdemeanor.

     (3) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases fish or shellfish from commercial fishing gear without the owner's permission; or

     (b) Intentionally destroys or interferes with commercial fishing gear.

     (4) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor.

     (5) A person is not in violation of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear if the person removes a trap placed on property owned, leased, or rented by the person.

Great idea!  but i'm sure they'd tear them down as fast as we could put them :bash:

It may be true, but that's the defeatist attitude we need to get away from and just do it. We need to put them up faster than they can take them down.

I'm going to write WDFW to check the legality of posting such items. After that, feel free to send me any specific design items. It should be fairly inexpensive to print up, I don't mind footing the bill if people are genuinely interested in posting them.

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2013, 07:10:56 AM »
We all, as hunters, should foot the bill to make up a bunch of offical looking posters that we can all take out with us and hang up at sites like these, that read: "This land access brought to you by Hunters. Thank you for visiting. Buy Ducks stamps to help conserve wildlife."
Maybe with a big picture of a happy smile right under it.    :chuckle:

I like this idea. I may draft something up. I'll also include the text from RCW 77.15.180;

Quote
RCW 77.15.180
Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear — Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases a wild animal from another person's trap without permission;

     (b) Springs, pulls up, damages, possesses, or destroys another person's trap without the owner's permission; or

     (c) Interferes with recreational gear used to take fish or shellfish.

     (2) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree is a misdemeanor.

     (3) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases fish or shellfish from commercial fishing gear without the owner's permission; or

     (b) Intentionally destroys or interferes with commercial fishing gear.

     (4) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor.

     (5) A person is not in violation of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear if the person removes a trap placed on property owned, leased, or rented by the person.

Great idea!  but i'm sure they'd tear them down as fast as we could put them :bash:

It may be true, but that's the defeatist attitude we need to get away from and just do it. We need to put them up faster than they can take them down.

I'm going to write WDFW to check the legality of posting such items. After that, feel free to send me any specific design items. It should be fairly inexpensive to print up, I don't mind footing the bill if people are genuinely interested in posting them.

Thanks Nosferatu, Didn't mean to sound defeated but sometimes I can get pretty negative about things.
I agree it is a great idea, it's a simple and hopefully productive way to help protect our rights and hunting areas.
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2013, 11:19:37 AM »
We all, as hunters, should foot the bill to make up a bunch of offical looking posters that we can all take out with us and hang up at sites like these, that read: "This land access brought to you by Hunters. Thank you for visiting. Buy Ducks stamps to help conserve wildlife."
Maybe with a big picture of a happy smile right under it.    :chuckle:

I like this idea. I may draft something up. I'll also include the text from RCW 77.15.180;

Quote
RCW 77.15.180
Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear — Penalty.

(1) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases a wild animal from another person's trap without permission;

     (b) Springs, pulls up, damages, possesses, or destroys another person's trap without the owner's permission; or

     (c) Interferes with recreational gear used to take fish or shellfish.

     (2) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the second degree is a misdemeanor.

     (3) A person is guilty of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree if the person:

     (a) Takes or releases fish or shellfish from commercial fishing gear without the owner's permission; or

     (b) Intentionally destroys or interferes with commercial fishing gear.

     (4) Unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor.

     (5) A person is not in violation of unlawful interference with fishing or hunting gear if the person removes a trap placed on property owned, leased, or rented by the person.

Great idea!  but i'm sure they'd tear them down as fast as we could put them :bash:

It may be true, but that's the defeatist attitude we need to get away from and just do it. We need to put them up faster than they can take them down.

I'm going to write WDFW to check the legality of posting such items. After that, feel free to send me any specific design items. It should be fairly inexpensive to print up, I don't mind footing the bill if people are genuinely interested in posting them.

count me in, I keep a stapler in my truck just in case I need to tack up some propaganda.
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2013, 05:43:30 PM »
Works for me too, however I don't think it would accomplish much.
 I traded emails with ol' Marlin and he finally showed his true colors  ie.  no matter how much good hunters do we are lumped into his 'sadistic killers' category:

"  I have a particular distaste for those hunters who attempt to portray themselves as stewards of the earth when they are responsible for so much death and suffering, and when almost every environmentally-friendly undertaking on their part has been motivated entirely by self-interest and a desire to have more animals to kill.   

Killing for sport is way below my threshold of acceptable human behavior.

We have a cultural difference -- let's leave it at that.

Marlin  "

Old enough to know better.
Young enough to go for it.

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #51 on: August 19, 2013, 09:47:38 AM »
He's right - there is a cultural difference.

I want my family to enjoy disease-free, steroid-free, hormone-free meat on a regular basis, and they do.  He might think he's the greenie weenie but the reality is I eat more organic than he does on a regular basis, I guarantee it.

He wants his family to suffer many diseases due to the meat they eat (if they eat meat), and they will

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #52 on: August 19, 2013, 10:03:51 AM »
I looked over that website and there were pics of the usuall slob hunters leaving behind there shells.  I wish guys would clean up after themselves :bash:  I no longer upland hunt but when I waterfowel hunt I usually pull out a shopping bag's worth of shotgun shells left from other hunters.  We cant continue to give the left ammo to shut our way of life down. :twocents:


Litter cleanup crew right here..... :tup:
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #53 on: August 19, 2013, 02:10:21 PM »
Works for me too, however I don't think it would accomplish much.
 I traded emails with ol' Marlin and he finally showed his true colors  ie.  no matter how much good hunters do we are lumped into his 'sadistic killers' category:

"  I have a particular distaste for those hunters who attempt to portray themselves as stewards of the earth when they are responsible for so much death and suffering, and when almost every environmentally-friendly undertaking on their part has been motivated entirely by self-interest and a desire to have more animals to kill.   

Killing for sport is way below my threshold of acceptable human behavior.

We have a cultural difference -- let's leave it at that.

Marlin  "

Atleast he returned your email :rolleyes: You can't reason with these city bred wacko's. If it weren't for the farmers and the hunters creating these wildlife areas they wouldn't have the wildlife in the first place to look at. It's obvious their agenda is strictly to ban all hunting some day. First the release sites and then the public duck areas. You sure wouldn't think wdfw would even listen to these guys but they do. There is a helluva lot more greenies writing letters to wdfw and going to meetings than hunters and it bites big time.
They are changing and shaping our culture like it or not.
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2013, 04:04:06 PM »
I looked over that website and there were pics of the usuall slob hunters leaving behind there shells.  I wish guys would clean up after themselves :bash:  I no longer upland hunt but when I waterfowel hunt I usually pull out a shopping bag's worth of shotgun shells left from other hunters.  We cant continue to give the left ammo to shut our way of life down. :twocents:


Litter cleanup crew right here..... :tup:

It all helps Campmeat!  :tup:
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #55 on: August 24, 2013, 05:27:21 PM »
When hunting geese in a field blind I also pick up whatever wads as I can find as well. 
Leave it as clean if not cleaner than before.   
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #56 on: August 25, 2013, 12:18:56 PM »
I heard today that the birdwatchers on the peninsula got the pheasant release program shut down for the Dungeness site.  One of their big complaints was that hunters/dogs were walking off trail and stepping on nests of baby birds....I am not sure which birds in WA nest and lay eggs in Oct/Nov (other than chickens).  Heard they also got horses banned from some of the trails.

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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #57 on: August 25, 2013, 12:38:03 PM »
I heard today that the birdwatchers on the peninsula got the pheasant release program shut down for the Dungeness site.  One of their big complaints was that hunters/dogs were walking off trail and stepping on nests of baby birds....I am not sure which birds in WA nest and lay eggs in Oct/Nov (other than chickens).  Heard they also got horses banned from some of the trails.
That doesn't surprise me at all :rolleyes: they'll use whatever they can to shut down hunting.. These people are nothing but anti-hunting environmental extremists who only pose as birdwatchers. Most of the (real)birdwatchers I know are down to earth folks who understand the importance of hunting and what we contribute to conservation.
Why our officials take these people serious and cave into their illogical reason is beyond me :dunno:
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #58 on: August 25, 2013, 01:12:09 PM »
I heard today that the birdwatchers on the peninsula got the pheasant release program shut down for the Dungeness site.  One of their big complaints was that hunters/dogs were walking off trail and stepping on nests of baby birds....I am not sure which birds in WA nest and lay eggs in Oct/Nov (other than chickens).  Heard they also got horses banned from some of the trails.
That doesn't surprise me at all :rolleyes: they'll use whatever they can to shut down hunting.. These people are nothing but anti-hunting environmental extremists who only pose as birdwatchers. Most of the (real)birdwatchers I know are down to earth folks who understand the importance of hunting and what we contribute to conservation.
Why our officials take these people serious and cave into their illogical reason is beyond me :dunno:  because the squeaky wheel gets the grease
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Re: birdwatchers on release sites
« Reply #59 on: August 25, 2013, 09:04:33 PM »
When hunting geese in a field blind I also pick up whatever wads as I can find as well. 
Leave it as clean if not cleaner than before.

In this day and age of environmentally friendliness and biodegradability it surprises me there has not been a more concerted effort toward bio degrading wads. After having wads turn up in my fish traps well downstream over the years I really wondered when someone would take on this issue. I knew it would become a problem and if I wanted to make my million I should have started working on the solution then.

This was about the time when a biodegradable golf tee was marketed and proved feasible.

 


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