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Offline Humptulips

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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2013, 06:42:22 PM »
there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.

Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?

No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2013, 06:51:20 AM »
 :yeah:
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2013, 06:53:11 AM »
there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.

Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?

No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
it isnt far fetched, i killed 2 in my back yard doing it this way, hung a deer carcass and the skin in a little cedar tree just high enough where they could get at it, killed one first thing in the morning and one in the evening, but where i live it isnt like the yotes are educated, they never have anyone messn with them  :tup:
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2013, 05:22:32 PM »
Jack master, you got lucky! I know a guy in Okanogan county that shot a coyote from his yard, skinned it where it fell and in the morning had 2 bobcats eating on it shot them and admits that it will never happen again in his lifetime. Just cause you had it happen once doesn't mean it is a sure thing.
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2013, 06:39:45 AM »
Jack master, you got lucky! I know a guy in Okanogan county that shot a coyote from his yard, skinned it where it fell and in the morning had 2 bobcats eating on it shot them and admits that it will never happen again in his lifetime. Just cause you had it happen once doesn't mean it is a sure thing.
never said it was a sure thing, it is an idea man  :tup:
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2013, 05:37:49 PM »
I usually sell about two  to three large traps for dog sized animals a week.  The traps are just too expensive to make and ship. Conventional methods are just more practical.

Started building one today and will finish tomorrow. It is extremely open. It can be set to where there is only a couple of directional props to get in the cage to fire the doors. One of the ways the trap can be set is like a dirt hole set. Prepare where the trap is to be set. Dig hole. Place trap over hole. Make  look like an animal has been digging. Place bait  in hole. When animal digs in hole trap fires. Base of trap has a slot that omits the wire. This is set over hole. In order for the animal to dig or get to bait the slot makes him turn due to the angle. This make his hind end be in the trap when the trap fires.

Just came up with this set for the trap, but will incorporate on rest made of this design. It is a two door- side door trap. The back has a door and there is a door the complete length of the trap. There are 12 springs on the side door, and 6 springs on the back door. When set it has only two sides showing with a small partition or sticks and rocks to guide him.

The problem is the trap is a little complex for some. There is not just one way to set and bait but about 10 or more.

Cages just have to be too big to be practical for any very large animal over conventional methods  in my opinion

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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2013, 07:00:29 PM »
A study in California conducted a few years ago:

Efficiency
We set 46 SoftCatch traps, 45 WS–T, 43 Collarum, and 41 cage-traps in Arizona and south Texas during the autumn of 2001 and the spring of 2002. During 492 trap-nights we captured no coyotes in cagetraps and had no coyotes activate the trap mechanism (zero efficiency).  During 483 trap-nights we captured 13 coyotes (27 per 1,000 trap-nights) coyotes in the Collarum restraint, with 15 potential captures (efficiency= 0.87, SE=0.09 ). During 507 trap-nights we captured 7 coyotes (14/1,000 trap-nights) of the 8 that activated the WS–T snare efficiency = 0.88, SE = 0.13). We captured all of the 25 coyotes that activated the SoftCatch traps (efficiency=100%) during 517 trap-nights (48 coyotes per 1,000 trap-nights).
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2013, 12:47:44 PM »
The problem with studies, most are out dated and limited at the time by the experience of the trapper doing the study or the limitation put on the study.

Snares, footholds, and cage traps have improved dramatically in their ability to catch in the last 10 years , in the last 5 years. That in itself changes all -especially if the person reading, trying to learn, is limited on the changes.

Just the quality video, that can be purchased, has very much improved in the last ten years.

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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2013, 03:10:27 PM »
Here is a picture I took today of the trap showing slot in bottom of trap with wire trigger placed in slot. To finish the set I really needed to dig the hole under the slot deeper and place wires lower. I needed to slant partition more and cover with debris. Also needed to place dirt on bottom of trap. Will try and post two pictures to give more clarification.

The idea is to get him to come in turning to dig or smell and getting in position. When he bites or digs bait, trap fires. The partition is to be positioned to make him turn and go the way you want him to, just like a dirt hole set conventional.

There are 12 springs on the side door and 6 on the back door. The folding partition in the background can also be used in place of the single one in the picture.

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Re: Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2013, 05:14:19 PM »
there are companies that commercially make live coyote traps I don't know the legalities of and they are spendy but you won't have to worry about random dead pets to have to explain to the neighbors.

Oh my god, what makes you think coyote traps are lethal?

No trapping license needed to protect your animals (mention of a dead chicken) if it is on your own property. That's for cage traps. You can set cage traps but don't get your hopes up. Highly unlikey you will catch many coyotes in cage traps.
Other option is you can get a special permit to use padded jaw traps. Will they catch your dogs? Probably but so what. Go out and turn them loose. Unless you have dumb dogs they'll learn to steer clear of them. It is a huge myth that traps mean injuries to dogs. That being said you have to know what you're doing and have the right traps.
For a non-trapper it is a steep learning curve. I recommend you forget about trapping them. You probably won't be succesful.
Hanging meat sounds pretty far fetched to me too. Good if you want to attract flies.
I'm not a trapper and mostly have just seen noose snares used for coyote and wolf. 
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Re: Any way to trap a coyote?
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2013, 06:18:04 PM »
I have had a buddy trap some yotes, but it is not easy. you need like a 30 by 30" 36" long. It needs to be desented by fire or someway. Always keep away from any people, use through away gloves when touching it. Put it on the very back of a truck when transporting it. use something like afterbirth for bait, it is a natural bait for them. then find a good spot. The longer the trap the better because you can use 2 doors that drop when triggered. He has done his trapping in Eastern Washington..

 


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