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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #315 on: October 03, 2013, 10:21:18 PM »
The largest majority of bucks I am seeing in 117/121 are legal...at this point I think it would be much tougher finding bucks that aren't legal.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #316 on: October 04, 2013, 08:53:50 AM »
Here is another example of bad genes.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #317 on: October 04, 2013, 10:21:50 AM »
I will be heading up to 117/121 after modern season to hang a few cameras to prep for late archery. I am interested to see the breakdown of legal bucks to non legal to does. I will be hanging 3 cameras so my data should be pretty good.
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #318 on: October 04, 2013, 10:56:15 AM »
This has gone on a long time now...........the only me, me, me.....my kids, my kids my kids I see is you PA..............................you know nothing about the rest of us, we have revealed nothing about our hunting preferences or success or lack of, we simply support letting young animals live.  On the other hand, you have permeated this thread with " kill anything ".  Your comments sound like those from a young hunter who has never tasted success, but I think you have.  THere is no entitlement for killing animals.  Like most of the rest of us, when your kids gain the skills to kill a 1 1/2 yr old 4pt, then there ya go.  Its not asking alot of any hunter to hold out for a 1 1/2 yr old basket rack 7 or 8pt that still has its milk teeth.

Thats my last comment on this matter that I will continue to support.  R

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #319 on: October 04, 2013, 02:43:15 PM »
I agree.  I think the "any deer" is silly for any area that there is an effort to manage and increase deer herd quality/numbers.  The youth hunt currently scheduled for late season has it right, "4 pt min or antlerless"

Yep.  Right on.
In my opinion they are managing for bigger bucks. I've lived in and hunted the same areas in 121 for the better part of 38 years. The numbers are on the rise. When I say I'm seeing more does now, that has nothing to do w/a 4 point rule. What we need to look at is not our own desire to shoot the big one. Most hunters who know how to hunt can fill there tag. It's sounds like to me, (In My Opinion) that there is an attitude out there of ME, ME, ME and more ME. "I WANT BIG BUCKS WHERE I HUNT, SCREW THE REST. Kids our our future for hunting, we are all getting old. Someday I might not be able to hunt like I use too. I might want to put meat in the frizzier. We've been killing any buck for a 100 years or more in 121, I had no problem filling my tag, there has been years when the numbers were up and years when they were down. Back in the day the night before deer season opener you would see a string of head lights on 395, all hunters. Why do I say all hunters? Because back then you didn't see many head lights on 395. Everybody wants an OUTDOOR CHANNEL place to hunt. Where you pass on bucks most hunters would shoot. The reality is those people have there own land that they spend tons of money on to manage their own honey hole's. Others spend tons of money to hunt those land. No BIG DEER KILLS ON FILM ON MONEY.    Ok, I'm done for now have at me. :chuckle: :twocents:

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #320 on: October 04, 2013, 08:15:19 PM »
This has gone on a long time now...........the only me, me, me.....my kids, my kids my kids I see is you PA..............................you know nothing about the rest of us, we have revealed nothing about our hunting preferences or success or lack of, we simply support letting young animals live.  On the other hand, you have permeated this thread with " kill anything ".  Your comments sound like those from a young hunter who has never tasted success, but I think you have.  THere is no entitlement for killing animals.  Like most of the rest of us, when your kids gain the skills to kill a 1 1/2 yr old 4pt, then there ya go.  Its not asking alot of any hunter to hold out for a 1 1/2 yr old basket rack 7 or 8pt that still has its milk teeth.

Thats my last comment on this matter that I will continue to support.  R
You have no clue. I never said MY KIDS or ME, ME, ME in reference to myself. Most, not all of the posts is about BIG BUCKS everywhere. SCREW THE REST AS LONG AS WE GET OUR BIG BUCKS TO HUNT. I support any deer for kids, seniors and disabled. Unless you have taken a kid, senior or disabled hunter out hunting you will have no clue. Might as well make kids buy a fishing license too. You should go back and read my posts you might learn something. BTW, you use "WE" and "THE REST OF US" in your post. Are you the spokesmen for the rest. I have not [b permeated this thread with " kill anything "][/b], I have said I can get my deer. Just open it up for kids, seniors and disabled.   

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #321 on: October 04, 2013, 08:24:38 PM »
The largest majority of bucks I am seeing in 117/121 are legal...at this point I think it would be much tougher finding bucks that aren't legal.

I've seen 2 legal bucks in 121 this year.  One was a mulie (today) and the whitetail looked like a blacktail fawn with a whitetail rack.  Seen quite a few spikes, some forked-horns and a couple 3 points, but the legal deer must be hiding or something?  :dunno:

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #322 on: October 05, 2013, 07:45:35 AM »
The largest majority of bucks I am seeing in 117/121 are legal...at this point I think it would be much tougher finding bucks that aren't legal.

I've seen 2 legal bucks in 121 this year.  One was a mulie (today) and the whitetail looked like a blacktail fawn with a whitetail rack.  Seen quite a few spikes, some forked-horns and a couple 3 points, but the legal deer must be hiding or something?  :dunno:

How is his true if we are creating a bunch of big bucks like PABEN said.  :chuckle:

I am not sure what area you hunt but if are only focusing on a couple of sections then try spreading out a little if you are able. The age structure might be off in that area you are currently hunting for whatever reason. One area I hunt near Chewelah has 7 legal bucks coming in and not one smaller one.  :dunno:
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #323 on: October 05, 2013, 07:14:04 PM »
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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #324 on: October 06, 2013, 08:23:13 PM »
My son and daughter have had no issues killing legal bucks for the last 3 years now. The rule was implemented the first year my daughter hunted. She was 10 at the time. She didn't know what the old days were like. I told her the rules and we hunted. Period. She had to let 2 or 3 walk before she got her chance. Big fricking deal! I looked at it as more days to be in the wods with my little girl. She looked at it as that's just the way it is. We saw a moose that season and had to pass on it as well.

Most kids are entitled little whiners because we made them that way. They are going to have to follow rules they don't agree with there entire lives. If a rule keeps them out of the woods or lack of "success" makes them loose interest then they probably weren't that into it anyway and might not become life long hunters. My 10 year old son had to hunt to the very last day of the season last year before he got it done. It was AWESOME! My kids play a ton of sports and deal with disappointment all the time. Why should hunting be any different?

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4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #325 on: October 06, 2013, 09:32:28 PM »
This will be my first year hunting in 117 so when i saw it was the 4 point minimum i was nervous but I've been scouting and been throwing out some corn and here's just a few of the bucks that I've seen there's 3 other legal ones and a few no legal ones, but so far I don't see a problem with the 4 point rule




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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #326 on: October 06, 2013, 10:58:05 PM »
my house last year I fed the deer all winter and I had 14 bucks 4 point or greater I would say it's working well.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #327 on: October 06, 2013, 11:12:39 PM »
My son and daughter have had no issues killing legal bucks for the last 3 years now. The rule was implemented the first year my daughter hunted. She was 10 at the time. She didn't know what the old days were like. I told her the rules and we hunted. Period. She had to let 2 or 3 walk before she got her chance. Big fricking deal! I looked at it as more days to be in the wods with my little girl. She looked at it as that's just the way it is. We saw a moose that season and had to pass on it as well.

Most kids are entitled little whiners because we made them that way. They are going to have to follow rules they don't agree with there entire lives. If a rule keeps them out of the woods or lack of "success" makes them loose interest then they probably weren't that into it anyway and might not become life long hunters. My 10 year old son had to hunt to the very last day of the season last year before he got it done. It was AWESOME! My kids play a ton of sports and deal with disappointment all the time. Why should hunting be any different?

No kidding...I get the feeling that alot of people are in just a hurry to fill their tags!! I dont get it... I love being in the outdoors and hunting.

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #328 on: October 07, 2013, 07:06:32 AM »
 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: That about sums up how I feel about it too  Seabass and Huntnnw.   :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:

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Re: 4-point rule 117/121
« Reply #329 on: October 07, 2013, 07:09:56 AM »
Tommy, I have seen several bucks in the city limits of spokane that would blow your mind.  Absolute monsters!   If folks would hold off on squeezing the trigger on the first buck they see, theyd really have a shot at some dandies.   Its not all about the antlers either.   The pride and satisfaction of killing a mature deer.....good stuff

 


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