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Well looks like I have finally had enough with Manual Down riggers, so going electric after this weekend... As much as I boasted about them and the craziest excuses for not getting them I am going forth and not looking back... Either 1106 Scotty or 10STX Cannon, still deciding, but need those 30-60" booms... Thoughts? Scotty plugs seem really cheap. More Scotty's here also, but a lot of them in the shopping carts at Sportco getting repaired all the time too??? Oh will keep a couple manuals for Robodad to assist with as I know how much he likes cranking them when it is warm outside...
I, personally, do not like that lever clutch thingy on the Scottys, I like to be able to turn the knob to drop the ball as it seems much smoother to me. The Cannon plugs are also nicer, though by no means perfectly sealed from corrosion.
Are you talking about the old Scotty plugs or the new style ones? The new style isn't that new so that's why I'm asking. I haven't seen a plug better than the new Scotty design plug and the cannon plugs are definitely no better, I've helped more than one friend put the Scotty plugs on their cannons.
Quote from: lokidog on July 15, 2013, 10:55:52 PMI, personally, do not like that lever clutch thingy on the Scottys, I like to be able to turn the knob to drop the ball as it seems much smoother to me. The Cannon plugs are also nicer, though by no means perfectly sealed from corrosion. Exactly where my thoughts are at, that lever clutch doesn't seem well thought out during design. The plugs are thin small and seen more than one get broken pretty quickly. Cannon does have beefier plugs? I thought I was swaying towards Scotty, then you showed up and reminded me of the things I do not like about them.. Hmmmmmm
check with Gary Krein at A-1 charters in Everett, think he's been using electric downriggers daily (extremely hard use) for at least 25 years. Last I checked (may have changed) he wouldn't have a scotty on the boat. I ran a boat out of Edmonds for about 10 years (quit about 10 years ago) and at that time the Scotty's just wouldn't hold up to the daily abuse we put them thru. Honestly can't say they haven't improved since then, so I won't personally give an opinion.
I would recommend the Canon Digitrolls if you feel the need to bottom track. Where I fish, I feel they're the best out there. If you don't plan on tracking, I would recommend the Scotty's.
Good luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that.
Quote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. The other problem is you need a bunch of extra expensive electronics to be able to track the bottom with the cannons and if you don't fish every day or don't fish for a living then it's not worth all the extra expense IMO !!!
Quote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. I completely agree with what you are saying, so don't take this as arguing. Without any first had experience with the bottom tracking on cannons, how does it work when it comes to line angle? For instance, say I am fishing Big Bank off BC, targeting kings and fishing right on the bottom at around 250ft. On a Scotty I would run 300 feet of cable out, because with the line angle the counter on the rigger is not accurate with what depth I am fishing. What would you do in that case with a cannon? Then throw in running with current, or against current? That is something I have never understood.
Quote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. I dont think KC grasps the "MY Location". Im thinking your in North Central Wa. So your probably fishing lakes and reservoirs on the bottom. As is the guides in your location. Were most of us fish Salt and not on bottom nearly as much. Typical King fishing is usally suspended. But not Blackmouth...Digis could shine here! And most guides here on the salt dont run Digi trolls KC. Might help to tell us were and why you fish the bottom trackers?
Quote from: robodad on July 18, 2013, 08:26:11 AMQuote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. The other problem is you need a bunch of extra expensive electronics to be able to track the bottom with the cannons and if you don't fish every day or don't fish for a living then it's not worth all the extra expense IMO !!!That's very true, but if you have the $40K boat these days like most everybody seems to a have, what's another couple grand. Quote from: sirmissalot on July 18, 2013, 08:39:53 AMQuote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. I completely agree with what you are saying, so don't take this as arguing. Without any first had experience with the bottom tracking on cannons, how does it work when it comes to line angle? For instance, say I am fishing Big Bank off BC, targeting kings and fishing right on the bottom at around 250ft. On a Scotty I would run 300 feet of cable out, because with the line angle the counter on the rigger is not accurate with what depth I am fishing. What would you do in that case with a cannon? Then throw in running with current, or against current? That is something I have never understood. Good question, and I can't answer that.Quote from: wildmanoutdoors on July 18, 2013, 09:36:04 AMQuote from: MtnMuley on July 18, 2013, 08:08:52 AMGood luck consistantly tracking bottom with your Scotty's. Hope you're ready for a good workout all day instead of relaxing back enjoying the fishing. Anyhow, like I mentioned in my first post, Scotty's are what I would buy if I didn't plan on tracking.......but obviously you can't seem to understand that. I dont think KC grasps the "MY Location". Im thinking your in North Central Wa. So your probably fishing lakes and reservoirs on the bottom. As is the guides in your location. Were most of us fish Salt and not on bottom nearly as much. Typical King fishing is usally suspended. But not Blackmouth...Digis could shine here! And most guides here on the salt dont run Digi trolls KC. Might help to tell us were and why you fish the bottom trackers?That's correct. Basically the mid to upper Columbia is where I am referring to. I guess KC's comment on digi's being not worthy of being pissed on if they were on fire, just drew an interest with me. I got nothing solid out of it, so just took it as that.......he does seem like the funny type to have the signature line he has though......
