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About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« on: July 22, 2013, 11:57:51 AM »
So last year I bought a couple AR's for my wife and I from a friend of ours who makes and supplies tactical equipment (some may remember the story). shortly after getting them we started having ejection problems (about 3 mags in). I gave the Guns the benefit of the doubt and tried 3 different types of ammo (gun show reloads, UMC, American Eagle) and 3 different types of lube (Gun grease, Rem oil, CLP). Still had the same problems but took them to Oklahoma anyways for a possible hog hunt. Took them out to check sighting and both guns suddenly became single shots (gas key came loose).

At this point I had enough, I contacted my friend and told him the problem. He said to bring them in and he would take care of them. 2 months later I get them back, he told me there were some ejection springs that were not properly heat treated and that some slipped by the factory. The gas keys were also staked down.

so took them up this last weekend both guns ejected perfect except 1 jam in 1 of the guns. so I thought I was good to go, re sighted both guns and thought "NOW LETS HAVE SOME FUN!" 3rd mag in my rifle and it became a single shot again (gas key again)! so I ran 3 mags continuous through my wife's and it ran perfect, just mine went TU. so I snagged the $300 stainless bolt from one of my dads guns, put it in mine, ran perfect the rest of the day.

IM AT MY END HERE! Im thinking about throwing these into the river and buy AK's! If I could replace them for what I paid for them I would, but we got them at cost. So frustrated I don't know what to do :bash: :bash:...
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2013, 12:03:55 PM »
if you chuck it in the river let me know so i can go collect them up please  :chuckle:  :tup:
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2013, 12:09:08 PM »
git a FN SCAR  :chuckle:

Ill remember not to click on your AR for sale ad later!  :chuckle:

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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2013, 12:09:36 PM »
What brand are they?  If the other bolt works fine, maybe replace it and shoot it.  Even if the gas keys are staked, some of the screws are of subpar metals and cannot be properly staked no matter how hard you try.
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2013, 12:11:32 PM »
What make and model??? or are they all Custom?? 

I have found that they are very easy to work with.  I would buy quality components and re-build what you have to make them work.  If you don't mind me asking what did you pay and what components were used to make them? 

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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2013, 12:15:10 PM »
What brand are they?  If the other bolt works fine, maybe replace it and shoot it.  Even if the gas keys are staked, some of the screws are of subpar metals and cannot be properly staked no matter how hard you try.

Not sure who makes the uppers, my friend sells the uppers but he gets them from a manufacturer. The lowers are SAA out of Washington, so far they have been fine except needing some Loctite on the buffer tube ring. Im not blaming my friend he bought them from someone else, Im just done dealing with this. Im gunna send him the bolt (not giving up my upper again) and have him fix it again so I can return my dads bolt to him. although I may just keep it cause it seems to work fine!
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2013, 12:22:43 PM »
What make and model??? or are they all Custom?? 

I have found that they are very easy to work with.  I would buy quality components and re-build what you have to make them work.  If you don't mind me asking what did you pay and what components were used to make them? 

Johnny

the lowers are SAA, the uppers are from my fiend and Im not sure who his supplier is. grand total I think I paid $550 each. the are flat top receivers with quad rails.
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2013, 12:25:12 PM »
Replacing bolts or bolt parts is pretty easy. Finding said parts is your nightmare. Keep your dads bolt he won't mind  :chuckle:  ;) It will all come together  :tup:
Hey! I'm not a complete idiot I have parts missing. Though sometimes I wonder.

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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 12:32:39 PM »
Look on Brownell's and see if they have any Colt bolt carrier assemblies and put one in.  You get what you pay for with ARs, and unfortunately you found a lemon.  I have put over a 1000 rounds through mine without any cleaning whatsoever, and have not had a single malfunction in it.

I'm willing to bet if you compare the Colt bolt carrier assembly to your you will see the difference right away in the gas key screws.
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 02:14:56 PM »
If your gas key and the fastening bolts are up to spec and the key is staked, you won't have that issue.  Keys and fastening bolts are cheap.  Getting them staked isn't too hard.  Do that and your AR should be 100%.

Springs are also cheap.  If your ejector spring has already been replaced, consider swapping out your extractor spring too since you don't know what quality it is...


Understand there are a lot of bad parts out on the market right now because of the manufacturing rush to fill demand and poor quality control.  I recommend avoiding overly generic or no-name parts for now...

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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 02:19:59 PM »
Go ahead get an AK you will not be disappointed  :tup:
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Re: About to chuck my AR in the woods and gunna by an AK!
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 02:30:26 PM »
Just replace the bolt carrier or complete assembly. Rainier Arms has everything you need, their web sites inventory is real time. On your door step in a day or so and 7.00 bucks shipping with top notch customer service. Hard to beat them anywhere, especially locally.

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http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/browse&category=ar15/m16_replacementparts-upper_boltcarrierassemblies

 


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