Thank you guys, im not saying hes a monster by any means but he was bigger then he looks in the pic... and I love my trykon xl.. it is a great shooting bow, and most people said it was unforgiving but i dont think so at all..... I shot my first perfect vegas round indoors with it, its kind of hard to shoot 30 straight shots inside a quarter at 20yrds with a unforgiving bow! but Im buying the newest badest hoyt for 09 and giving my brother the trykon........