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Offline D-Rock425

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2013, 10:41:25 AM »
I can't wait.

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2013, 10:42:05 AM »
Anyone seen Outdoor Guardian around in a while?

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2013, 10:46:58 AM »
Anyone seen Outdoor Guardian around in a while?

He's been out shooting his new Rtrifle....
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2013, 10:48:56 AM »
Anyone seen Outdoor Guardian around in a while?

He's been out shooting his new Rtrifle....
oh snap

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2013, 10:49:19 AM »
double snap

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2013, 10:52:25 AM »
He and tex just let a little chuckle out.  They seem to have their heads on straight...ish and a little bit of humor inside them.   :chuckle:
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2013, 11:09:02 AM »
I would shoot. I have personally been in this situation before. My hunting partner several years ago shot a bull that was a 4x3 but met all the requirements of being a spike. One side had double eye guards and forked at the top, the other side had double eye guards and a spike. The key is the branch not to exceed 4 inches from the base. My hunting partner did have the gamier question it and took the head to show the prosecuting attorney. We knew we were legal but it did make us pucker a little. Shoot, Shoot.

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2013, 03:35:14 PM »
I would not shoot,    not worth being worried over all the way home and from the ongoing debate I'm not sure anyone is 100% sure on here after all these posts.   

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2013, 04:02:28 PM »
No shoot....many of the shooters are relying on an extremely subjective and narrow reading of parts of the law.  That is not a good plan.

there is too much risk of the Game officer NOT agreeing with you and then you go to court and have stuff confiscated.  (RTSpring et al)  Good luck on getting it back.  At the least you are out time, gear and hunting...at worst...you wont hunt for a while and lose your gear for good...
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2013, 04:14:36 PM »
How can a gamie not agree with you, alls he has to do is read the regs like I do. If it branches 4 inches or lower from the base of skull then it's a spike. Not hard to figure out the law. The gamie can throw up a tape measure just like anyone else! It's pretty cut and dried.

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2013, 04:19:57 PM »
How can a gamie not agree with you, alls he has to do is read the regs like I do. If it branches 4 inches or lower from the base of skull then it's a spike. Not hard to figure out the law. The gamie can throw up a tape measure just like anyone else! It's pretty cut and dried.

Woodswalker has a point.  If the gamie decides, like a lot of other guys on here, he doesn't read them like you do, then it isn't a simple case of "well, we agree to disagree".  It's a case of "well, I'ma take your gun and your truck, and if it turns out that I'm wrong you can see about getting your stuff back."  And it don't always come back easy, ask rtspring.

I still think it's legal, though.
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2013, 04:26:45 PM »
Guess I don't understand your logic. It's in black and white printed in a book from the game dept. he shouldn't have to agree or disagree. As an employee of fish and game he should be able to walk up to it and say yep it's 4 inches or less from the skull your fine to go sir have a good day. If he doesn't know the regs then he shouldn't be a gamie.

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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2013, 04:52:09 PM »
The thing is the law is up to interpretation of each individual officer. Regardless of what the regulation say each officer is different. They can write you the ticket it's up to you to fight it in court.

 For example One cop may consider speeding anything over 5 miles over another might not pull people over for going 3 miles over.
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2013, 04:54:28 PM »
If it were me, I would ALWAYS err on the side of caution. I don't think it is worth the risk if I am not 100% sure it is legal. I would rather go home empty handed then take the chance.  :twocents:
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Re: Spike or no spike? Shoot or no shoot?
« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2013, 05:00:38 PM »
Then there shouldn't even be regs if its open to interpretation. Goin 5 miles over doesn't compare to this. It can't be a legal animal then the gamie say nope it's not legal. That would be like shooting a 2x3 buck in a 3pt area and the gamie saying I'm interpreting that it doesn't have 3 pts on both sides so ur getting a ticket.

 


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