Question - on upgrade to new bow

[Paxer]

At what point do you throw in the towel and just buy a new bow?  If it's a matter of money lets pretend that's not an issue. What would you buy and why? I like my PSE but i don't "LOVE" it hope that makes sense.

Note- I am still very new to bow hunting. only hunted last season and this year have only shoot a few times because the bow was in the shop for a long time.

[turkeyfeather]

If you shoot your bow well there are only 2 reasons to get a new bow. You broke the old one or you just want a new one. The first option is probably not that likely. The second one is what keeps bow companies in business. I say if you want a new one go for it, you dont need any other reason than that.

[mountainman]

For someone relatively new to the sport, and money not an issue, you don't want to look at the higHest performance, ie:speed. Look more for the smoothest draw, a fair IBO speed, and shootqbIlity. This rest,s a lot on the fit and feel of the bow. They all can shoot. Personally, I feel the Mathews Creed has the best of all these features. Large Idler for a forgiving string angle, smooth draw and not abrasive on the rollover, an important feature, especially for a hunting bow. Imho

[Paxer]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride. looks like I will have to go up north or out of state to find a dealer to shoot one. for me because I have a shoulder injury too i have to have something light weight. I shoot this pse with out the quiver just because the extra weight with loaded quiver is hard to do over and over again, but as time goes on and my injury gets better i feel my strength coming back. Thank you for the recommendations

[turkeyfeather]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride.

Sounds like you must have went to Spokane Valley Archery.

[Paxer]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride.

Sounds like you must have went to Spokane Valley Archery.

unfortunately yes I did, and I will never go back unless it's something i absolutely have to. I feel really bad for Mathew's too because of the way they are represented in that establishment. I don't even want to get into the horor sorry about pse and cabela's. Alwinearcher know's everything but only because he made the mistake of giving me his phone number, poor guy i swear he's going to get a new phone number for how much I text him.

[turkeyfeather]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride.

Sounds like you must have went to Spokane Valley Archery.

unfortunately yes I did, and I will never go back unless it's something i absolutely have to. I feel really bad for Mathew's too because of the way they are represented in that establishment. I don't even want to get into the horor sorry about pse and cabela's. Alwinearcher know's everything but only because he made the mistake of giving me his phone number, poor guy i swear he's going to get a new phone number for how much I text him.

I have had great luck and service from Greg at Whitetails Plus in Deer Park. I don't know if he carries Mathews though. He seems to carry more PSE and Diamond/Bowtech.

[Paxer]

it's good to hear where to go for quality products and good customer service - and that know's what they are talking about. Whitetails plus huh, that's the 2nd time someone said to go there from this forum, looks like I have to unload this bow and get to whitetails plus soon.

[mountainman]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride. looks like I will have to go up north or out of state to find a dealer to shoot one. for me because I have a shoulder injury too i have to have something light weight. I shoot this pse with out the quiver just because the extra weight with loaded quiver is hard to do over and over again, but as time goes on and my injury gets better i feel my strength coming back. Thank you for the recommendations

Do you ever get to Wenatchee? Or even Moses lake? I run High Mountain in Wenatchee, and am a Mathews dealer. Would love to get you some range time behind the Creed. You definetly need to shoot it to feel the benefits I listed above! Am very sorry you had such a bad experience at the other shop..puts a black eye on the rest of us, but be sure, that is not the norm..many awesome pro shops out there as some have recommended already! Let me know if you are ever in this neck of the woods and I will personally get you some time behind this model! 

[Paxer]

I drive to Seattle often enough I could stop in,I will message you.

[mountainman]

Sounds good!

[coachcw]

heck I throw the towel in every two to three years , the technology is always changing .

[Paxer]

I know what you mean, it's changing so much it's like computers , every other month some new video card upgrade come's out.

I love that most are going to lighter weight materials like carbon, now if we can get a full titanium riser that would be jaw dropping. 

I would like to know how the bow tech , carbon knight  feels too, weighing in at 3 lbs I can't even imagine @ 60lbs draw would feel like

[coachcw]

the cpx is the bad boy in there line 

[Paxer]

it's 4.3 lbs, that's what my pse is right now 
The Technology it has though looks impressive.

1 lb less would be nice

[Jellymon]

If you don't love your bow and money is no issue then go for it!  It's fun and in my opinion when it comes to bow hunting nothing is as important as the confidence you get when shooting a bow well that you love. 

[Paxer]

Ok long story short - Took my Bowmaddness back to Cabela's and upgraded to a PSE Prophecy - it took some blood sweat and tears but they swapped it out for me. the guys were friendly about it, and swapped over my rest and peep too.



So this is at 120 feet - remember i am a still very new to bow shooting, and hunting. I have to say this bow is night and day different then the madness, and I am very happy now.



I have to say thank you to Alwinearcher , from Trophy state of mind. This guy took me under his wing and fine tuned my Prophecy, not only that but he also gave me full on lesson on shooting too. I never imagined how much technique goes into setting up, positioning, alignment, sighting, then release. I feel so much more confidence from the few hours he taught me.  every shot now I practice everything. Now knowing what I know, I have allot of work to do and am very excited to doing what's required. Today I practiced for 2 hours - my wrist is bruised from the release strap - going to have to find a way to get more padding on it maybe, or just live with it till it calus up.

   I got lucky as he showed me some clips , all I can say is Alwinearcher is Crazy!! Watched him go head to head with a large Sow that charged him I couldn't believe what I was watching, i was in shock , anyways I can't tell you to much your just going to have to tune in, if it makes the cut.

[mountainman]

Matt is quite the guy! Did a small peep adjustment for his buddy Dalton today. These guys live to bow hunt!!

[bonkellekter]

I actually looked into the creed before i bought this bow, the local dealer though was an absolute deal breaker - one of the worst shopping experiences I ever had. They wouldn't even let me shoot it, I swear he thought I was some punk kid with out any money just wanting to joy ride.

Sounds like you must have went to Spokane Valley Archery.

unfortunately yes I did, and I will never go back unless it's something i absolutely have to. I feel really bad for Mathew's too because of the way they are represented in that establishment. I don't even want to get into the horor sorry about pse and cabela's. Alwinearcher know's everything but only because he made the mistake of giving me his phone number, poor guy i swear he's going to get a new phone number for how much I text him.

I have had great luck and service from Greg at Whitetails Plus in Deer Park. I don't know if he carries Mathews though. He seems to carry more PSE and Diamond/Bowtech.

Got to agree... they are by far the best I have dealt with in this state!!

Congrats on the new bow

[huntnnw]

SVA is terrible!!!!! I cannot beleive that shop stays open. I hear nothing but bad year after year over and over

[Paxer]

I try to not to talk bad about local establishments because in today's economy we all are feeling some sort of hardship, I just wish they had better customer service or new people working there that are public friendly. You know eager to help out anyone that comes into the door.  I like that they have an out door range, but it's still to far out for me to justify going out there. I have a place here at my house I can comfortably shoot 40 yards.  but as far as my money goes, until they make some drastic changes I see no need in taking my business there.

[huntnnw]

They never will..its ALL about the elitest Josh out there and if its not mine your crap sucks attitude