Barnes Bashing

[Rob]

one shot with a 375 HH barnes TSX dropped my cape buffalo.  It walked 20 yards after being shot and was dead as a doornail.  penetrated about 4 feet and was found in one of the stomach's later.  300 grain bullet and when I weighed it after the shot it came in at 299.6 grains...  I'd call that 100% retention.

Killed many animals with them and found them to be highly effective.

Not my all time favorite bullet (Cutting Edge is my favorite), but they have always done me right.

[Biggerhammer]

Cutting Edge has a great reputation for dangerous game bullets. That bad boy would have zipped through a elk like butter!

I shoot the Non Con BBW#13 CEB's in my 450/.375 Ultra Mag.

[JLS]

I've watched a fair number of elk fail (as in die) as a result of a Barnes bullet.

[mountainman]

I've watched a fair number of elk fail (as in die) as a result of a Barnes bullet.

one shot with a 375 HH barnes TSX dropped my cape buffalo.  It walked 20 yards after being shot and was dead as a doornail.  penetrated about 4 feet and was found in one of the stomach's later.  300 grain bullet and when I weighed it after the shot it came in at 299.6 grains...  I'd call that 100% retention.

Killed many animals with them and found them to be highly effective.

Not my all time favorite bullet (Cutting Edge is my favorite), but they have always done me right.

[jay.sharkbait]

Alright

So lets talk accuracy..... I would be interested in honest feedback and lets talk MOA or measured groups and known distance.

You cannot use the term "cloverleaf" "lights out" "dimesize" or any of that nonsense

[mountainman]

Itsy teeny weenie?? Sorry, I couldnt resist! Handloading can usually get to 1/2" or better..some, a whole lot better.

[Biggerhammer]

One thing for sure, you sure aren't going to win a match with Barnes. Especially at distance,  Hornady and Nolser Accubonds would give a guy a run for his money. Berger's a no brainer for coming out on top.

But as always the debate will migrate to the skills of the guy pulling the trigger.👍

[jay.sharkbait]

I have been a Berger and Accubond fan for a while. Due to disability I cant shoot the larger magnums anymore and am looking for something in the 6-6.5mm range that can break bone (not mine) and still shoot 1/2moa at the longer distances.

I tried them in my 338 and I couldn't get them to shoot. Also, the Barnes claimed BC was off by about 10%+.

[TVHunts]

But as always the debate will migrate to the skills of the guy pulling the trigger.
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Ok suck me in....The targets I still have and can measure, 338 WM .541" 210 gr TSX , 280 AI .433" 140 gr TTSX (but the 280 AI has shot Bergers at .311)  I've watched alot of animals drop from Bergers in the videos but have never used one myself and not sure if I ever will.  The Bergers sure do fly nice though.

[Biggerhammer]

Killed the crap out of a Mulie just shy of 400 yards with a .338 Edge and a 285gr Hornady match. Bullet fragmented big time just after impact. Totally destroying all his lungs, dropped him in his shadow. Only found the base under the hide on the off side. Beautiful bullet performance, screw exits. The Mulie took every bit of energy that load had to offer, just the way I like it.

All that was left of 285gr, perfection! The load shoots 1/2" at 300 yards if I do my part.



Bergers shoot just a tight.

[Dan-o]

Alright

So lets talk accuracy..... I would be interested in honest feedback and lets talk MOA or measured groups and known distance.

You cannot use the term "cloverleaf" "lights out" "dimesize" or any of that nonsense

I have shot some stupendously average groups with all kinds of bullets.   Honest.

[jay.sharkbait]

Killed the crap out of a Mulie just shy of 400 yards with a .338 Edge and a 285gr Hornady match. Bullet fragmented big time just after impact. Totally destroying all his lungs, dropped him in his shadow. Only found the base under the hide on the off side. Beautiful bullet performance, screw exits. The Mulie took every bit of energy that load had to offer, just the way I like it.

All that was left of 285gr, perfection! The load shoots 1/2" at 300 yards if I do my part.



Bergers shoot just a tight.

Is that one of Shawn's guns?

[Crunchy]

I just started loading the 168vlds and they shoot under 1/2 inch groups at 100 yards. 

[mountainman]

These Branes bullets recovered from a mule deer failed because? I guess the excuse was, that they were not tipped. Amazing how many years Barnes sold non tipped bullets. With a complete track record of complete pass through and by the photo one can see why. Poor bullet performance went unnoticed due to the fact the failed bullet, practically a FMJ wizzed through the animal and out into nowhere.

Interesting? You say they failed, you say they whizzed out to no- where? But you killed the deer? AND recovered the bullet? Did said deer die? Or was the bullet dug out of the dirt? Yes, not much expansion in the photo..curious if this was shot from a small caliber? Ts's as we all know need to be pushed with some velocity to be effective..lower velocity, obviously, cup bullets work best.

[Biggerhammer]

You read the original thread Mtn Man, feel free to look back through it.👍