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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2013, 11:26:30 AM »
What we have here is failure to communicate!
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #76 on: August 09, 2013, 11:27:56 AM »
Electronic devices manipluate electricty to acheive its result  :bash: :bash: :bash:
So to have an Electronic device you must have Electricity of some sort, therefore it is an Electrical device first that uses Electronics to manipulate the Electricity.....
Your camera is a complicated Electronic device that has a battery or batteries in it that are Electrical devices, hence electrical devices would be mounted on your bow.....
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #77 on: August 09, 2013, 11:28:12 AM »
The way I see it, electrical equipment or electric device encompasses a general range of devices.........basically anything that uses electrical current to function. 

A piece of electronics (cell phone, range finder, etc.), while it is electronics..........it is also an electrical or electric device.  It is both.  Therefore, the law is written just fine and written ok to encompass anything electric. :twocents:
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #78 on: August 09, 2013, 11:29:40 AM »
im saying because of how its worded some people like myself interprut things differently... i work in Naval Aviation you wanna talk about interpruting things!!!!! if its clearly stated ELECTRONICS vice ELECTRICAL i wouldnt have started this thread.... Cause i know the difference... will i use it for hunting probably not... cause you never know where Gamies are... will i use it for 3D shoots back yard shooting why not... ive been lucky to hunt here in WA for the Last 5 years .. im from NY orignally, and Regs in NY you can wipe your ass with... they are written with Chalk...

OK, so you're really over-thinking the regs. The WDFW is writing them for people like me who are unedumacated and can't make a distinction between electrical, electric, and electronic. Mostly, it's because they prefer ambiguity in regulations. It gives the gamies more leeway to write tickets. If you're resting a rangefinder on your bow, you're unable to use it practically. If you attach it with anything, then it fits the description of illegal equipment. Get your answer from the local office and make sure it's documented. If you really want to avoid trouble, talk to your local gamie and get it straight from the horse's mouth. Either way, if someone says it's alright, post it up here and we can further chastise you for your post.  :)
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2013, 11:30:21 AM »
I look at laws an i abide by them ... i have not done anything illegal in this state while hunting... NEVER have i broken any hunting laws in any state i have hunted in EVER!!!! i wrote this thread for a reason to see what others think and maybe just maybe this could get read by someone and somehow this could get things changed or re-evaluate things to maybe be able to use a Electrical/Electronics Device.  LAWS ARE LAWS just like driving laws... but you know if you break one of those you go to court you fight it and you then dont get charged with anything... blah blah blah... i would never want to jeopordize my hunting life, i love it to much... do i think this laws here are very strict yes they are... but owell you have to obey them....im not trying to start wars with all you hunters by all means...... i respect each an everyone of you guys and your comments... im just the guys who thinks wayyyyyyy outside the box... cause even though its in black in white, theres always away around things... theres always different views on things, disagreements no matter what... i wasnt trying to break the rules but thinking outside the box and bringing it up to you all and see what you all think... hope i didnt offend anyone by all means..

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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2013, 11:35:29 AM »
Makes me wonder what your CO would think of your "interpretations".

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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #81 on: August 09, 2013, 11:37:30 AM »
do these same rules apply to modern rifle and muzzies?,i know they do on archery   :dunno: reason i ask is because some of these new scopes would be sweet.  :tup:
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #82 on: August 09, 2013, 11:37:43 AM »
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #83 on: August 09, 2013, 11:43:45 AM »
I look at laws an i abide by them ... i have not done anything illegal in this state while hunting... NEVER have i broken any hunting laws in any state i have hunted in EVER!!!! i wrote this thread for a reason to see what others think and maybe just maybe this could get read by someone and somehow this could get things changed or re-evaluate things to maybe be able to use a Electrical/Electronics Device.  LAWS ARE LAWS just like driving laws... but you know if you break one of those you go to court you fight it and you then dont get charged with anything... blah blah blah... i would never want to jeopordize my hunting life, i love it to much... do i think this laws here are very strict yes they are... but owell you have to obey them....im not trying to start wars with all you hunters by all means...... i respect each an everyone of you guys and your comments... im just the guys who thinks wayyyyyyy outside the box... cause even though its in black in white, theres always away around things... theres always different views on things, disagreements no matter what... i wasnt trying to break the rules but thinking outside the box and bringing it up to you all and see what you all think... hope i didnt offend anyone by all means..

Ok, I get what you're saying.  But realize you're talking to a bunch of guys who for the most part are partial to the traditions and really not looking at game laws as things to find ways around.  They're the laws, and we all follow them.  If you're wrong, you're basically considered a "poacher", which is a half-step up from a child molester on here.   :chuckle: 

I think a lot the, uh, "enthusiasm" in the responses is based on the desire to have battery-operated whatever on their bows for a long time and have experienced years of frustration because of the laws as written in this state.  I have a bowhunting buddy that just moved out here from Minnesota.  He thinks we're stone-age idiots, for the most part when it comes to restrictions on technology on weapons and baiting of bears.  But we allow it for deer/elk.  I told him he's lucky he didnt' move here two years ago, cause those fancy lighted nocks would have been wasted as well.   :chuckle:
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2013, 11:52:55 AM »
By definition electrical is power producing so technically you could mount whatever you want to your bow but the second you put in the batteries you've crossed into illegal territory
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #85 on: August 09, 2013, 11:53:24 AM »
this is why you can't mount your iphone on your bow for hunting...

http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight

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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2013, 11:56:37 AM »
I look at laws an i abide by them ... i wrote this thread for a reason to see what others think and maybe just maybe this could get read by someone and somehow this could get things changed or re-evaluate things to maybe be able to use a Electrical/Electronics Device... im just the guys who thinks wayyyyyyy outside the box... cause even though its in black in white, theres always away around things... theres always different views on things, disagreements no matter what... i wasnt trying to break the rules but thinking outside the box and bringing it up to you all and see what you all think... hope i didnt offend anyone by all means..

I think that your initial point was taken and you received several responses, common agreement was that it would not be legal.

Where things seemed to go sideways was the splitting of hairs and seemingly grasping at straws over terms, ie., electronic vs electric...when it goes to that level of argument/justification, it just takes things in the wrong direction, and can sound like since you didn't get the answer you wanted, then what about this, how about that, etc., hoping someone will side with what you wanted to hear.

Then, to add in the argument that there are always ways to get around the law, doesn't sit well to some people.  They may interrupt that statement to say it is okay to do it as long as you didn't/don't get caught.

Hoping to get something changed or updated that is a current law, is a process that few are willing to start and see through to the end, but it is possible, just look at what the anti-hunting movement has done!

Spirited debate, appropriate adult conversations and difference of views and opinions I believe, is always welcome here, that is how people learn and grow.

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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2013, 12:09:14 PM »
this is why you can't mount your iphone on your bow for hunting...

http://www.firenock.com/main.php?page=iBowSight
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2013, 12:53:43 PM »

If they meant anything electrical, thats what they would have put in the regs.
And that's exactly what they did!
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Re: is it Legal?? i interpret the regs as its ok
« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2013, 01:01:27 PM »
Geeze you guys. Just tell the gammie you were using hands free calling.............. :tup:
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