Clarification

[jackelope]

I suspect a warden may chime in here with an opinion on the matter.
 


My gut says that lady is wrong. We've had people literally busted for posting video that they took with a bow  mounted camera.  The thread is still around.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.msg404557.html#msg404557

[bobcat]

If the opinion from Olympia is wrong, I still don't see why any game warden would choose to use the no electronics rule to write someone up for having a camera on their bow. I just don't see it happening. What purpose would it serve? A camera on a bow is not hurting anything.

[jackelope]

I would not disagree with that.

[turkeyfeather]

If the opinion from Olympia is wrong, I still don't see why any game warden would choose to use the no electronics rule to write someone up for having a camera on their bow. I just don't see it happening. What purpose would it serve? A camera on a bow is not hurting anything.

Your probably right, however do you wanna take that chance that he or she isn't having a bad day and decides to follow the law. Not me. 

[h20hunter]

Agree with most points already made, however, a warden in a bad mood can cite you per the current laws. Not worth it.

[h20hunter]

Matty....anyway you can talk with the gamie in your area? Kind of a heads up that you are not using anything to aid the hunt...only film it? That could smooth tbe way and really take care of any what ifs.

[MattySuto]

That's why they all need to get on the same page.... If Olympia says you can do it and you have a written proof....doesn't the game warden work for Olympia??? So what's he supposed to do if his boss says its ok?? ... I will try to contact the Gamie and see what his take is...

[Bob33]

If the opinion from Olympia is wrong, I still don't see why any game warden would choose to use the no electronics rule to write someone up for having a camera on their bow. I just don't see it happening. What purpose would it serve? A camera on a bow is not hurting anything.

That appears to be a valid "get out of jail free" card, but I think she is wrong. She is referencing a WAC that has no bearing on this issue. I believe most enforcement officers and judges would not agree with her conclusion.

WAC 232-12-054 is the applicable WAC, and I would ask to get a written reply on that one specifically.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-054

..and welcome back. 

[buckfvr]

I suspect a warden may chime in here with an opinion on the matter.
 


My gut says that lady is wrong. We've had people literally busted for posting video that they took with a bow  mounted camera.  The thread is still around.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.msg404557.html#msg404557

  I dont think this will get an opinion......unanimous no more like it.

Look at my post Bobcat...........its so black and white it hurts.......no gray area, not a hint.  The archery regulations sums it up clear as a bell......you will get a ticket, dont waste your breath explaining to the warden, he will just tell you to save it for the judge.............you loose.

[Bob33]

By the logic of that reply, illuminated nocks would have already been legal. Fiber optic sights would be legal. Rangefinders would be legal as none of them project a beam onto the target.

[Rainier10]

If the opinion from Olympia is wrong, I still don't see why any game warden would choose to use the no electronics rule to write someone up for having a camera on their bow. I just don't see it happening. What purpose would it serve? A camera on a bow is not hurting anything.

That appears to be a valid "get out of jail free" card, but I think she is wrong. She is referencing a WAC that has no bearing on this issue. I believe most enforcement officers and judges would not agree with her conclusion.

WAC 232-12-054 is the applicable WAC, and I would ask to get a written reply on that one specifically.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/wac/default.aspx?cite=232-12-054

..and welcome back. 

I think this WAC overides the one she referenced in her email.  Nice find Bob.

[turkeyfeather]

After a bit more investigating I am not even sure she's the right person to be asking. A rules coordinator/criminal liason doesn't seem to be the person to be able to advise on the rules and certainly is not the person in charge of enforcing them.

[MattySuto]

Thanks for the welcome back.... I have a few emails ill keep an if i see a Gamie ill ask .... But don't the Gamies work for OLY?

[turkeyfeather]

Yep, but they don't work for her.

[bobcat]

I suspect a warden may chime in here with an opinion on the matter.
 


My gut says that lady is wrong. We've had people literally busted for posting video that they took with a bow  mounted camera.  The thread is still around.

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,33898.msg404557.html#msg404557

  I dont think this will get an opinion......unanimous no more like it.

Look at my post Bobcat...........its so black and white it hurts.......no gray area, not a hint.  The archery regulations sums it up clear as a bell......you will get a ticket, dont waste your breath explaining to the warden, he will just tell you to save it for the judge.............you loose.

I understand, and agree, but still- the intent of the law couldn't have been to outlaw a camera on a bow. It makes no sense. And, being that game wardens are humans too, I trust that they wouldn't write a ticket for this.