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1 yo lab to thin, help
« on: August 14, 2013, 09:45:50 PM »
My lab is not putting on weight. I can see his vertebrae and hip bones. I feed him at the top of the recommended serving chart on the back of the bag. He is fed Nutra nuggets. He is active and happy. He will fetch until exhaustion. What gives? Thanks

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2013, 09:51:20 PM »
Start adding a cup of cottage cheese or a cup of plain yogurt once a day to his food. That's what my vet told us accept we had to pay 40$ to hear it.  :tup:
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 09:57:40 PM »
I would start feeding him half a can of wet dog food with his dry food. We feed our dog dynamite dog food from Costco and she has packed on the pounds from it. (Not huge but no more ribs)

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 10:01:43 PM »
Worms?

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 10:04:03 PM »
 :yeah:. my vet says never give your dog dairy can cause intestinal issues with some dogs (not breeds just dogs in general)
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2013, 10:07:41 PM »
Deworm,and add a half a cup per meal of the same chow he is allready eating until you notice getting thicker and be sure he is still pooping like he she should  :tup:
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2013, 10:09:21 PM »
:yeah:. my vet says never give your dog dairy can cause intestinal issues with some dogs (not breeds just dogs in general)

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 10:18:48 PM »
I will deworm and raise his feed for a bit. Thanks.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 10:23:25 PM »
my dog got parvo when she was a pup the vet said to mix her food with yogurt or cottage cheese to help put weight back on, and there is a enzyme that parvo destroys in there stomach. we have been giving cottage cheese and yogurt to all three of our dogs now for 2 years i doubt it's bad for them. I am sure we would have known by now. And like norsepeak said check for worms.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 11:02:40 PM »
I will deworm and raise his feed fir a bit. Thanks.

I would deworm.

Then look at his dogfood. What kind is it? Nutra Nuggets had Kcals per listed on the back. Compare that to other dog foods.

If you are feeding the Lamb and Rice and feeding 5 cups a day or more, time to change the dog food.

The kcals on the nutra nuggets L & r is 340 kcals. That is not enough for most growing dogs. So......

What I have done, is feed my young boys, 2 cups of L & R and 2 cups of Puppy. Nutra Nuggets Puppy has 440 Kcals per cup. So with 4 cups of dogfood, I have essentially added 3/4 cup more of food without actually ADDING any more kibble.

Too much food, and some will not get digested and will just run through him.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2013, 06:56:53 AM »
Take a stool sample to your vet and if the dog has worms you'll worm for the right one's. Ya might get the dog a check up at the same time.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 07:13:18 AM »
What's the nutrition info on the bag?
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2013, 10:37:12 AM »
What's the nutrition info on the bag?

In my opinion its pretty good not alot of filler. Light on the calories though 340kcals per cup

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 10:41:38 AM »
What's the nutrition info on the bag?

In my opinion its pretty good not alot of filler. Light on the calories though 340kcals per cup

Post up the actual nutritional info(fat, protein, etc %'s) and how much you're feeding and you'll get some more input I bet.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2013, 10:43:13 AM »
I had a dog that could keep from getting worms she was always skinny and ate so much you could see her belly distended usually but she looked like skin and bones.  Eventually had to put her down it started to affect other aspects of her health.  Hope you can figure it out good luck.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2013, 10:47:56 AM »
Another thing you can do is to add cooked eggs to his diet. Just scramble up a bunch each weekend and put a little in his food every night. Just adds a little something to his diet.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2013, 11:01:16 AM »
I recently made the switch from feeding Pro Plan to feeding Pro Pac. It was really for financial reasons but if you look at Pro Pac it is actually better than the Pro Plan. My dogs so well on it. If you are looking to change this is a good food to try it's around $35 per bag but each bag has a $2 off coupon and you get a free bag after 10 bags.

I also think you should deworm.


Check this out here is your food next to the Pro Pac

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/nutra-nuggets-dog-food/

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http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/pro-pac-dog-food/
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2013, 11:28:24 AM »
The reason I keep asking about the nutritional info on the bag....I'm far from a dog expert but I think that a 1 year old Lab should be on something formulated for large breed puppies. I'm curious to know if the food being fed is puppy food. If I remember correcty it would be a higher fat, higher protein base. My Lab died at 13 years old last November and once I got him off the large breed puppy food at age 2 he ate Natural Balance venison formula his whole life and never had any weight issues, never had any eating issues, etc.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2013, 11:50:26 AM »
The reason I keep asking about the nutritional info on the bag....I'm far from a dog expert but I think that a 1 year old Lab should be on something formulated for large breed puppies. I'm curious to know if the food being fed is puppy food. If I remember correcty it would be a higher fat, higher protein base. My Lab died at 13 years old last November and once I got him off the large breed puppy food at age 2 he ate Natural Balance venison formula his whole life and never had any weight issues, never had any eating issues, etc.

Large breed puppy has LESS protein and LESS fat than regular puppy.

At one year of age, I would not put him on or leave him on a Large Breed Puppy formula but then again, I don't feed it at all. Only time I had issues with a pup was when he was on large breed food.

If the dog is too thin, he needs more calories so realistically needs to be on a performance blend or a REGULAR puppy formula.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2013, 11:55:30 AM »
http://www.proplan.com/dry-dog-products/

This compares Reg Puppy with a Large Breed Puppy.

Protein levels are the same but the fat levels are significantly different.

Reg puppy also has about 60 kcals per cup more.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2013, 12:13:14 PM »
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2013, 12:14:47 PM »
The reason I keep asking about the nutritional info on the bag....I'm far from a dog expert but I think that a 1 year old Lab should be on something formulated for large breed puppies. I'm curious to know if the food being fed is puppy food. If I remember correcty it would be a higher fat, higher protein base. My Lab died at 13 years old last November and once I got him off the large breed puppy food at age 2 he ate Natural Balance venison formula his whole life and never had any weight issues, never had any eating issues, etc.

Large breed puppy has LESS protein and LESS fat than regular puppy.

At one year of age, I would not put him on or leave him on a Large Breed Puppy formula but then again, I don't feed it at all. Only time I had issues with a pup was when he was on large breed food.

If the dog is too thin, he needs more calories so realistically needs to be on a performance blend or a REGULAR puppy formula.

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Thanks for straightening me out. It's been 11-12 years since I paid any attention to puppy food.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2013, 12:37:51 PM »
I know this is really redneck but I've heard that Copenhagen gets rid of worms too?

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2013, 07:41:09 PM »
So I worked with a little of everything except the chew. Dewormed, cottage cheese once a day for 6 weeks or so and changed his food from nutra nuggets 360 kcals to kirkland super premium chicken with 393 kcals and he looks like a million bucks. Thanks everyone.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2013, 05:47:05 AM »
Very good!!

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2013, 06:03:19 AM »
I would continue to de worm him and give him some raw meat with plenty of fat . animals naturally add fat for the winter if he is active it wont be an issue . i'd keep him on puppy food intill he's two . also we found that carrots are great and good for there teeth.

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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2013, 06:16:29 AM »
I would continue to de worm him and give him some raw meat with plenty of fat . animals naturally add fat for the winter if he is active it wont be an issue . i'd keep him on puppy food intill he's two . also we found that carrots are great and good for there teeth.
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2013, 07:28:21 AM »
He put weight back on, that's good.  Did you look at his turds to see if there were any worms in it? 

I feed Diamond Extreme Athlete to my GSPs and they look like a million bucks.  Have never had any issues with it, I just cut back the amount they get in the off season.  http://www.diamondpet.com/products/diamond_naturals/dogs/dry_food/extreme_athlete/  During hunting season, when I'm doing a lot of upland birds, I will also mix up a "puppy primer" to help counter the fatigue and anything else my dogs might experience.

Puppy Primer gets mixed in with the regular food but consists of 2 tablespoons of uncultured yogurt, 1 teaspoon chopped garlic, 1 raw egg, and raw beef liver.  The yogurt helps their GI tract by reflorinating the microbiota and helps ensure their guts continue to be healthy (this can be helpful when administering anti-biotics as well).  The garlic helps the immune system and is an anti-parasitic.  The AVMA says garlic will make dogs anemic, but I have had no issues and have read several varying articles on the issue.  It is nearly a 50/50 split on those that say to do so and those that say don't.  The raw egg and beef liver the dogs like, but also give an extra boost of calories and other minerals to their diet.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2013, 12:32:03 PM »
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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2013, 12:42:39 PM »
I know this is really redneck but I've heard that Copenhagen gets rid of worms too?

Caffeine and Nicotine both drive away  worms.  My bother went to the doctor after he saw his own poop in the woods  with worms. The doctor said that because he drank a couple of cups of coffee and chewed Copenhagen the worms were on an exit strategy....

If third world countries they will give coffee grounds or tobacco leaves to chew on to expell worms and other parasites.
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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2013, 01:25:13 PM »
I know this is really redneck but I've heard that Copenhagen gets rid of worms too?

Caffeine and Nicotine both drive away  worms.  My bother went to the doctor after he saw his own poop in the woods  with worms. The doctor said that because he drank a couple of cups of coffee and chewed Copenhagen the worms were on an exit strategy....

If third world countries they will give coffee grounds or tobacco leaves to chew on to expell worms and other parasites.

They're also both toxic to dogs.

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Re: 1 yo lab to thin, help
« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2013, 01:29:10 PM »
My lab is not putting on weight. I can see his vertebrae and hip bones. I feed him at the top of the recommended serving chart on the back of the bag. He is fed Nutra nuggets. He is active and happy. He will fetch until exhaustion. What gives? Thanks

A little rib on the sides is not a bad thing...in fact in highly athletic working dogs you'll see nothing but bone and muscle.

That said, I would get a stool sample and have your vet check it out or just cut to the chase and deworm.

If you want a high quality food that will pack on the weight, see if you can have some of this delivered to your door.

http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/dr-tims-dog-food/

 


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