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Chronograph data
« on: August 15, 2013, 11:52:23 AM »
What should I do with chronograph data.  Do you average all rounds and use that as your standard, then use that data for trajectory info?

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 02:15:02 PM »
What should I do with chronograph data.  Do you average all rounds and use that as your standard, then use that data for trajectory info?
If you're calculating ballistics, then yes.
I look for the spread (deviation) to see how well I'm loading.
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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 10:00:06 PM »
Is a spread around 50 acceptable?

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 10:16:32 PM »
little high, I like to see a max spread of 25, but that takes a lot of fine tuning.   You can use your average speed in calculating your drop data and developing drop charts, but keep in mind that it is only a starting baseline.  There are a ton of variables depending on what you plan on doing with the gun.  Air temps, powder temps, elevation....etc.

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 10:23:24 PM »
Is a spread around 50 acceptable?


How far away was the target? And did you see any vertical stringing?

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 10:47:04 PM »
Is a spread around 50 acceptable?

I think that sounds high too.
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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2013, 11:06:02 PM »
The spread may depend on how accurate your chronograph is also.  Some are better than others.   
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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2013, 12:51:28 AM »
The spread may depend on how accurate your chronograph is also.  Some are better than others.

I will second the above my chrony is not anywhere as good as a pact I recently picked up. I hardly every got low extreme spread with it same loads on the pact are much better. I think the reason is the distance from the front and back electronic eye and a bigger window to shoot through. argie1891

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2013, 06:21:30 AM »
The most accurate chronograph for the general public is the Oehler 35P made by Oehler Research Inc.  It uses 3 screens instead of 2 to measure the speed.  The drawback is that they are spendy. 

Most accurate chronograph I have used, hands down.
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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2013, 08:13:18 AM »
The oehler are very good chronos and have made a name for themselves. But if i were to buy a chrono right now it wouldnt be an oehler. I recently had the opportunity to use a magnetospeed and feel it is a better design than the oehler. It gives a true muzzle velocity (not 20 feet downrange) and doent rely on any light or light screens. It uses the magnetic field of the bullet.

Fwiw when I chronoed my load for my 300 rum out of 10 shots I had a standard deviation of 9. That's better than I was expecting.
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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2013, 09:55:38 AM »
I'm just throwing this out here, but you really don't need a chronograph any more.

If you have a known distance and a fairly accurate BC you can get much better numbers using predictive algorithms.


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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2013, 10:44:08 AM »
I'm just throwing this out here, but you really don't need a chronograph any more.

If you have a known distance and a fairly accurate BC you can get much better numbers using predictive algorithms.
How will you know if the bc is accurate without knowing the velocity? Also how will you know how consistent your load is? Velocity is a very important part of load development and data for long range shooting.

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2013, 11:12:58 AM »
I'm just throwing this out here, but you really don't need a chronograph any more.

If you have a known distance and a fairly accurate BC you can get much better numbers using predictive algorithms.
How will you know if the bc is accurate without knowing the velocity? Also how will you know how consistent your load is? Velocity is a very important part of load development and data for long range shooting.

The algorithm is key.

It's like celestial navigation. It doesn't tell you where you are. It tells you how far away you are from a designated point.

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2013, 02:57:37 PM »
Ballistics Coefficient is a product of velocity

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Re: Chronograph data
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2013, 03:43:14 PM »
Ballistics Coefficient is a product of velocity

BC is a product of mass, diameter , surface area and surface condition.


 


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