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Hunting over gut piles
« on: August 15, 2013, 05:24:15 PM »
How is hunting bear over gut piles, not considered baiting? Alot of people on here talk about hunting over gut piles, and nobody says "bad idea". Yet everyone with any skull, is informed that they must have found it in Idaho. Hunt-Wa seems pretty good at trying to inform us, if something we're doing isn't on the up and up. IS HUNTING OVER A GUT PILE FOR BEAR LEGAL?

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2013, 05:29:09 PM »
I was wondering about this myself.  My impression is that if you don't move/modify the gut pile from where  its legal.  So, if I shot an elk and gut it out, I could legally shoot a bear if it came into the pile?

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2013, 05:30:16 PM »
Yes it's legal. It's not considered baiting unless you move the gut pile to another location. It's fine if it's where you gutted the animal.

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2013, 05:33:25 PM »
Yes it's legal. It's not considered baiting unless you move the gut pile to another location. It's fine if it's where you gutted the animal.

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Source? Not that I doubt you...just curious if it's on paper somewhere.

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2013, 05:40:20 PM »
ooo good question!  tag
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2013, 05:57:17 PM »
Yes it's legal. It's not considered baiting unless you move the gut pile to another location. It's fine if it's where you gutted the animal.

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Source? Not that I doubt you...just curious if it's on paper somewhere.

No source. But I pretty much ask every game warden I come across and that's been their answer every time. I'm sure someone will find a source. Hopefully :)

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2015, 09:09:23 PM »
Yes it's legal. It's not considered baiting unless you move the gut pile to another location. It's fine if it's where you gutted the animal.

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Source? Not that I doubt you...just curious if it's on paper somewhere.

Figured i would bump this post.  Anybody have a source on this yet?

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2015, 09:19:18 PM »
I have not seen it in writing but have heard it from several gamies.  Their stance is the law states something about "placing" bait/scent/etc.. If you do not move the gutpile you are not placing anything.




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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2015, 10:37:47 PM »
apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.245

d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2015, 10:42:06 PM »
apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15.245

d) As used in this subsection, "bait" means a substance placed, exposed, deposited, distributed, scattered, or otherwise used for the purpose of attracting black bears to an area where one or more persons hunt or intend to hunt them.

So does that mean you can hunt over gut piles?   :dunno:
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2015, 10:45:43 PM »
Guess it would have to be proven that the gut pile was intended to attract bears?  Not sure how that works  :dunno:
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2015, 10:46:53 PM »
Yes if you didnt place the gut pile there you can hunt over it.Example:I shoot an elk today,I gut it out leave the pile you come in tomorrow you can hunt right over my gut pile.
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2015, 10:53:32 PM »
Yes it's legal. It's not considered baiting unless you move the gut pile to another location. It's fine if it's where you gutted the animal.

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Source? Not that I doubt you...just curious if it's on paper somewhere.
There are many things that are legal that are not on paper,Just as has been said on here numerous times if its not in the regs or the RCW its legal.Most of the time by the members that have been on this forum longer than most its usually condescending the way its said.Example its not legal to hunt big game in wa. with a caliber less than .24,It does not say in specifics that a .30 cal is legal.
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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2015, 11:48:00 PM »
Yes if you didnt place the gut pile there you can hunt over it.Example:I shoot an elk today,I gut it out leave the pile you come in tomorrow you can hunt right over my gut pile.

Im just not buying the logic that its okay just because its somebody elses gut pile.  By that logic you could throw away a pile of donuts and then i could come shoot a bear on it, since i didnt put them there.  Your logic would basically make it legal for guides to set up bait piles for bears.

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Re: Hunting over gut piles
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2015, 11:49:41 PM »
my logic on this subject is fact,hunt over my gut pile or dont i dont care.  :twocents:
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