Regs on ground blinds?

[Dblstks]

Was wondering if anyone knows of regulations on ground blinds? And I don't mean whether they can be used or not.
My question is about having others (people you don't know) sit in your blind. I know in Nevada if you set up a ground blind you need to put a note on it that says when you will be hunting the blind. If someone comes upon your blind during times that you are not there, they can legally hunt out of your blind.
Picked apart the regs and did not see anything saying one way or the other. Personally I would never sit in anyone else's blind but I would not put it past some folks.

[CAMPMEAT]

Not ethical, but people will do it. We have some real winners in Washington State.

[Kain]

I dont think it is really addressed except on WDFW land where blinds are first come first serve.  Page 90.

[Bob33]

If it is on public land, it's legally free to be used by anyone: first come, first served. There are no regulations.

[hughjorgan]

Are you talking about a pop up blind or a blind some one spent time to build?

[Wilderness Addict]

I went camping the other day on public land. When I got back to my tent, someone was already there. They said first come first use, sorry buddy. This is a joke, but it shows the stupidity of the law.

[Bob33]

You're suggesting that you should be able to claim public land for your sole use by putting up a blind?

[biggfish]

Its open for whoever gets there on public land that's why I plan to use a pop-up or my backpacker blind.

[Wilderness Addict]

You're suggesting that you should be able to claim public land for your sole use by putting up a blind?

Absolutely not! I am saying that this is my property and I put it there for my use. If you want to put your blind up next to mine, hey that your right! When you"re at the beach do you lay on other people's towels? Most people bring their own towels.

To all ground blind and treestand owners: I will never use your property without your permission. It's just the way I am. I respect you and your property!

[turkeyfeather]

If you have it set up on public land it is free to use by all who use the land.

[Bob33]

"I am saying that this is my property and I put it there for my use."

If it is your private property then anyone else would be trespassing.

[hughjorgan]

If you have it set up on public land it is free to use by all who use the land.

I would like to see how that turns out for you or any individual who tries to use another persons blind or treestands. By your logic if I find your trail cam on public ground it is fair game....

[Bob33]

If you have it set up on public land it is free to use by all who use the land.

I would like to see how that turns out for you or any individual who tries to use another persons blind or treestands. By your logic if I find your trail cam on public ground it is fair game....

Legally it is. Ethically it is not in most cases

[turkeyfeather]

If you have it set up on public land it is free to use by all who use the land.

I would like to see how that turns out for you or any individual who tries to use another persons blind or treestands. By your logic if I find your trail cam on public ground it is fair game....

Did I say I would do that? NO! I simply stated that if you leave your property on public land it becomes public property. You don't have to like it, I don't care if you. It's not my law and has nothing to do with me.

[hughjorgan]

Bob and turkey feather you are quick to say it is the law, but what law. I have found nothing on the forest services website or a United States Code to tell me otherwise. Care to share what you know?

[MIKEXRAY]

I can't even IMAGINE finding a pop up blind and climbing into it to hunt.  No the guy doesn't own the property but he does own the blind itself.  Just because it is on public ground doesn't give you the right to use it, steal it  or do anything with it.  It is the same as coming into someones tent camping site, would you climb in the tent & go to sleep ?  There is way to much entitlement in society today.

[turkeyfeather]

Here you go. 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

[ghosthunter]

We have had this debate many times. There is no law that says that if you put up a pop up blind (which I use every year) in the national forest that anyone can sit in your blind. I would simply pull it down and pack it off.
Yes some one could sit next to your blind and hunt, no problem.

If you put your tent up on public land can I sleep in it?
If you park your truck can I sit in it.
If you have a lawn chair at the campfire?
No

Now if you build a blind on public land like many do duck hunting , hey first come first serve.
To apply that to personal property left on public land for short periods of time is plan stupid.
If you make that claim cite the law. There is not one.

Even on state waterfowl areas you can leave your gear unattended for a hour.

You are in your pop up blind and have to take a crap. So you walk off a ways and do your thing. You come back and Bob is in you blind smiling.
Stupid. I throw his a!!!!!!!!!!!!out of it in a heart beat.

This kind of mis information get people doing stupid things.

No you cannot reserve public land with a tree stand or pop up.
But that doesn't make them free use if they are portable.

 

[ghosthunter]

Here you go. 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.

[hughjorgan]

We have had this debate many times. There is no law that says that if you put up a pop up blind (which I use every year) in the national forest that anyone can sit in your blind. I would simply pull it down and pack it off.
Yes some one could sit next to your blind and hunt, no problem.

If you put your tent up on public land can I sleep in it?
If you park your truck can I sit in it.
If you have a lawn chair at the campfire?
No

Now if you build a blind on public land like many do duck hunting , hey first come first serve.
To apply that to personal property left on public land for short periods of time is plan stupid.
If you make that claim cite the law. There is not one.

Even on state waterfowl areas you can leave your gear unattended for a hour.

You are in your pop up blind and have to take a crap. So you walk off a ways and do your thing. You come back and Bob is in you blind smiling.
Stupid. I throw his a!!!!!!!!!!!!out of it in a heart beat.

This kind of mis information get people doing stupid things.

No you cannot reserve public land with a tree tand or pop up.
But that doesn't make the free use if they are portable.

 

Well stated. 

[ghosthunter]

I will carry it further.

If you have your pop up blind on National Forest and you put a lawn chair,or other camping equipment next to it. And leave to go to town.
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

So what makes anyone think another hunter could?

[turkeyfeather]

The op asked if there was a law. There is. It may not apply to all land but there is a law pertaining to some land. Again I think your a door knob if you park your butt in another mans chair.

[JLS]

A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

[Dblstks]

Here you go. 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.

did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll

[turkeyfeather]

Here you go. 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.

did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll

Your fine. Trust me, this isn't even close to a Pandora's box discussion. Ask a question about electronics or mechanical broadheads. Then you will see a show. 

[hughjorgan]

Here you go. 
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.

did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll

Your fine. Trust me, this isn't even close to a Pandora's box discussion. Ask a question about electronics or mechanical broadheads. Then you will see a show. 

This whole question about ground blinds was just hashed out about tree stands not to long ago and am pretty sure the same conclusions were drawn. It seems on federal land such as USFS each district has there own policies pertaining to ground blind/tree stand usage. Wdfw has policy in place etc...

[ghosthunter]

A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy.

[turkeyfeather]

A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy.

No offense ghosthunter but I dont think yahoo answers is a great place to search out legal advice. Just sayin. 

[ghosthunter]

To the op

I have left three pop up blinds up during black powder elk season in eastern Washington the entire season.
I get there three days ahead set up the blinds and brush them.
We have taken several elk out of them. I have never had one person bother them.

I have had one person one time set up next to one.

Take the blind enjoy.

[ghosthunter]

A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy.

No offense ghosthunter but I dont think yahoo answers is a great place to search out legal advice. Just sayin. 

It's only one many sources.

Entry into any private dwelling regardless of construction is well established in case law. Check it out for yourself. We have gone way off the trail here.
Good luck with whatever you do.
 

[CedarPants]

I sat in a pop-up blind that wasn't mine on public land once.  Was set up in a pretty good spot overlooking a nice funnel, and from a distant ridge I had watched the guy enter it 2 afternoons in a row.  On the 3rd afternoon you could imagine the surprise on his face when he stepped into his blind and saw me sitting there, warming myself with his portable heater.  I let him know that the wind was all wrong for the way he was approaching the blind and that he'd just been stinking the place up every afternoon.

This was of course a good buddy of mine though, so I wouldn't recommend trying this on someone you don't know 

[ghosthunter]

 

[dscubame]

I guess I should not leave my truck then either in fear of someone else using it.

[huntnnw]

Well Ill make sure to take over your camp next time you leave it unattended some real tools on here

[Bob33]

If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy.

When you put the satellite dish on top and fire up the generator, the deer might get a little suspicious.

[ghosthunter]

 

Funny thing I have tried it on deer and they see it right away.
But elk walk right by it or stop in front of it. Ummmmm.

Oh we'll that's another thread.

[washelkhunter]

I've made 3 ground blinds this year for elk season. If someone was to come along and use em I don't have any expectation that they would leave just because I came along. I'd just chat'em up then move off. I might hang out for awhile if I came across a ladder stand and I thought I wasn't going to fall out of it; and if the owner comes along off I go. Same with sitting in a ground blind. I've only ever come across 2 tho. One a ground and one a ladder. the ladder had been there so long the tree was growing around it. The ground had been up for a season or two already. I got itchy feet; I gotta be moving to be hunting.