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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2013, 06:03:35 PM »
I can't even IMAGINE finding a pop up blind and climbing into it to hunt.  No the guy doesn't own the property but he does own the blind itself.  Just because it is on public ground doesn't give you the right to use it, steal it  or do anything with it.  It is the same as coming into someones tent camping site, would you climb in the tent & go to sleep ?  There is way to much entitlement in society today.

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2013, 06:26:17 PM »
Be more concerned with your character than your reputation. Your character is who you actually are while your reputation is merely who others think you are.

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2013, 06:29:44 PM »
We have had this debate many times. There is no law that says that if you put up a pop up blind (which I use every year) in the national forest that anyone can sit in your blind. I would simply pull it down and pack it off.
Yes some one could sit next to your blind and hunt, no problem.

If you put your tent up on public land can I sleep in it?
If you park your truck can I sit in it.
If you have a lawn chair at the campfire?
No

Now if you build a blind on public land like many do duck hunting , hey first come first serve.
To apply that to personal property left on public land for short periods of time is plan stupid.
If you make that claim cite the law. There is not one.

Even on state waterfowl areas you can leave your gear unattended for a hour.

You are in your pop up blind and have to take a crap. So you walk off a ways and do your thing. You come back and Bob is in you blind smiling.
Stupid. I throw his a!!!!!!!!!!!!out of it in a heart beat.

This kind of mis information get people doing stupid things.

No you cannot reserve public land with a tree stand or pop up.
But that doesn't make them free use if they are portable.

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2013, 06:33:30 PM »
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2013, 07:00:15 PM »
We have had this debate many times. There is no law that says that if you put up a pop up blind (which I use every year) in the national forest that anyone can sit in your blind. I would simply pull it down and pack it off.
Yes some one could sit next to your blind and hunt, no problem.

If you put your tent up on public land can I sleep in it?
If you park your truck can I sit in it.
If you have a lawn chair at the campfire?
No

Now if you build a blind on public land like many do duck hunting , hey first come first serve.
To apply that to personal property left on public land for short periods of time is plan stupid.
If you make that claim cite the law. There is not one.

Even on state waterfowl areas you can leave your gear unattended for a hour.

You are in your pop up blind and have to take a crap. So you walk off a ways and do your thing. You come back and Bob is in you blind smiling.
Stupid. I throw his a!!!!!!!!!!!!out of it in a heart beat.

This kind of mis information get people doing stupid things.

No you cannot reserve public land with a tree tand or pop up.
But that doesn't make the free use if they are portable.

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Well stated.  :yeah:

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2013, 07:07:21 PM »
I will carry it further.

If you have your pop up blind on National Forest and you put a lawn chair,or other camping equipment next to it. And leave to go to town.
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .

So what makes anyone think another hunter could?
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2013, 07:10:50 PM »
The op asked if there was a law. There is. It may not apply to all land but there is a law pertaining to some land. Again I think your a door knob if you park your butt in another mans chair.
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2013, 07:23:22 PM »
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .


I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2013, 07:38:52 PM »
Here you go.  :tup:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.
:yeah: did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2013, 07:42:37 PM »
Here you go.  :tup:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.
:yeah: did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll
Your fine. Trust me, this isn't even close to a Pandora's box discussion. Ask a question about electronics or mechanical broadheads. Then you will see a show.  :chuckle:
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2013, 07:48:44 PM »
Here you go.  :tup:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/lands/public_conduct_rules/

Does not apply to DNR or Us Forest Lands.
:yeah: did not know I was opening Pandora's box with this question. I would like to know if the above mentioned conduct rules counts for nf land.
I understand public land is just that public........but I would not expect someone to sit in my pop up blind. And if that is the hunting method you choose to use it needs to be set up early enough for animals to get used to. So what are you supposed to do? Anyways, I know we are never going to come to any set conclusion but was just wondering what the consensus was out there. Thanks ya'll
Your fine. Trust me, this isn't even close to a Pandora's box discussion. Ask a question about electronics or mechanical broadheads. Then you will see a show.  :chuckle:

This whole question about ground blinds was just hashed out about tree stands not to long ago and am pretty sure the same conclusions were drawn. It seems on federal land such as USFS each district has there own policies pertaining to ground blind/tree stand usage. Wdfw has policy in place etc...

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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2013, 08:22:38 PM »
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .


I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy. :tup:


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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2013, 08:29:10 PM »
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .


I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy. :tup:
No offense ghosthunter but I dont think yahoo answers is a great place to search out legal advice. Just sayin.  :chuckle:
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2013, 08:33:11 PM »
To the op

I have left three pop up blinds up during black powder elk season in eastern Washington the entire season.
I get there three days ahead set up the blinds and brush them.
We have taken several elk out of them. I have never had one person bother them.

I have had one person one time set up next to one.

Take the blind enjoy.
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Re: Regs on ground blinds?
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2013, 08:38:35 PM »
A game agent cannot even enter it without probable cause because there is a expectation of privacy .


I'm willing to bet that this statement is a stretch.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080714172025AAUfhkN

Since I have taught Hunter Ed for twenty years, I bring a Game agent into ever class.
He has answered this question many times.


If you read the last paragraph , it would appear the more I make my blind site look like a camp the greater the expectation of privacy. :tup:
No offense ghosthunter but I dont think yahoo answers is a great place to search out legal advice. Just sayin.  :chuckle:

It's only one many sources.

Entry into any private dwelling regardless of construction is well established in case law. Check it out for yourself. We have gone way off the trail here.
Good luck with whatever you do.
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