collapse

Advertisement


Author Topic: Bird dog breeders beware  (Read 1938 times)

Offline AspenBud

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1742
  • Location: Washington
Bird dog breeders beware
« on: September 11, 2013, 09:39:06 AM »
Cross post from another forum

USDA changes made that will affect most breeders

http://michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479136

Offline WRL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 207
Re: Bird dog breeders beware
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2013, 11:26:27 AM »
It "should" not affect those that breed working dogs.

WRL

Offline AspenBud

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sourdough
  • *****
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1742
  • Location: Washington
Re: Bird dog breeders beware
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2013, 01:03:28 PM »
It "should" not affect those that breed working dogs.

WRL

The ambiguity is the problem. What defines a working dog? Is a hunting dog that is also a pet not a working dog? If a breeder sells a dog to a non-hunting home does that open them up to being classified as breeder of non-working dogs?

And what about the four breeding females rule?

Anything that Wayne Pacelle of HSUS supports you should be very wary of.

The UKC put this out today...

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/News/USDAFinalRuleChangesandIm09112013030111PM


Offline Happy Gilmore

  • Business Sponsor
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Old Salt
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2008
  • Posts: 5182
  • Location: Ronan, MT
Re: Bird dog breeders beware
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2013, 02:25:14 PM »
My guess it's to help have recourse for those puppy mills operating in unincorporated areas that don't have any local jurisdiction. Gives them another bullet in their gun if needed to shut down an operation.
"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checked by failure, than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much, because they live in the grey twilight that knows not victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt 1899

Offline WRL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 207
Re: Bird dog breeders beware
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2013, 04:58:26 PM »
It "should" not affect those that breed working dogs.

WRL

The ambiguity is the problem. What defines a working dog? Is a hunting dog that is also a pet not a working dog? If a breeder sells a dog to a non-hunting home does that open them up to being classified as breeder of non-working dogs?

And what about the four breeding females rule?

Anything that Wayne Pacelle of HSUS supports you should be very wary of.

The UKC put this out today...

http://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/News/USDAFinalRuleChangesandIm09112013030111PM

I agree and trust me I am no fan of HSUS or Peta. My point is, that it should not affect "bird dog breeders" because YES those are working/hunting dogs. Sooo.........while you can't control what someone does with his or her dog, they are sold as "working dogs".....

Now I totally agree that this is not a step in the right direction. I am just saying, FOR NOW, "we" (hunting dog breeders) are exempt.

WRL

Offline WRL

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hunter
  • ***
  • Join Date: Dec 2010
  • Posts: 207
Re: Bird dog breeders beware
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 12:08:47 AM »

 


* Advertisement

* Recent Topics

2025 blacktail rut thread by JDArms1240
[Today at 01:54:16 AM]


Bear Paw Outfitters Idaho Elk and Deer Hunt Units 77,78,79 by JDArms1240
[Today at 01:51:23 AM]


King of the mountain caught sleeping by Troutfins
[Today at 01:46:06 AM]


Trapline Taxidermy - wholehearted endorsement by Dan-o
[Today at 12:13:38 AM]


Colville lodging, any recommendations? by duckboy23
[Yesterday at 10:42:59 PM]


No upland with dog during deer and elk season? by Goshawk
[Yesterday at 09:51:23 PM]


Rabbits looking good so far! by Goshawk
[Yesterday at 09:48:30 PM]


Going to try my hand at calling. by ASHQUACK
[Yesterday at 08:45:32 PM]


HUNTNNW 2025 trail cam thread and photos by kodiak06
[Yesterday at 08:05:21 PM]


2025 deer, let's see em! by highside74
[Yesterday at 08:03:35 PM]


2025 Montana alternate list by Sakko300wsm
[Yesterday at 07:53:45 PM]


Whats your play by Mfowl
[Yesterday at 07:38:41 PM]


The 33 year quest by blackveltbowhunter
[Yesterday at 07:09:47 PM]


GM 6.6l gas 6 speed vs. 10 speed? by HntnFsh
[Yesterday at 06:20:25 PM]


F150 Ecoboost Guys by IdeehoT
[Yesterday at 05:59:07 PM]


Duck Hunting Land Trust by metlhead
[Yesterday at 05:46:37 PM]


It was a great year by NOCK NOCK
[Yesterday at 05:26:16 PM]


Harlequin in weird places? by Itsintheblood
[Yesterday at 05:01:08 PM]


Anti-fog for glass by wadu1
[Yesterday at 02:09:42 PM]


Bearpaw Season 2025 by bearpaw
[Yesterday at 01:19:15 PM]

SimplePortal 2.3.7 © 2008-2025, SimplePortal