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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #105 on: September 15, 2013, 03:43:15 PM »
I'm not  fan of stinging insects especially yellow jackets that can become very protective of a food source that there on. a few weeks ago I found pile of yellow jackets feeding on a dead mouse that my cat had discarded. seeing as i never pass up an opportunity to kill a bunch of yellow jackets I quickly grabbed a can of wasp spray and took aim. before the spry could reach the 20-30 yellow jackets they were off the carcass and headed my way. they finally gave up chase about 75 feet away and I was lucky not to get stung. THAT WAS A MOUSE.............I would say this situation is X 1000  :bdid:

My advise would be if practical go in late in the evening or very early in the morning and saw off the head and tag it.

It sucks you lost the meat but it would suck even more if you received 100's of yellow jacket stings recovering the antlers.

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Yellow jackets are horrible - but these are bald faced hornets - the black and white ones and they are even meaner I think. They were noticeable less already within one day and maybe we could have managed to get close enough. Come to think of it, I did not see one yellow jacket on the carcass. Just an unbelievable morphing pile of maggots, along with crazy black flies and a ton of those hornets crawling all over it. They should be gone once the meat is gone.

Come to think of it, I hadn't even pondered the legality of packing it out after at least a few more days. I've already found it, but I do not think it would have been physically possible to tag it with causing a severe disturbance to a lot of hornets, which would likely have resulted in me somehow having to get to a hospital, since I swell up really bad from only a single sting. The problem being that it is a long hike back to the truck and at least an hour and a half drive to the nearest hospital if I were really hauling @!#. It's not worth that risk when I know I can wait a little bit for the bees and bugs to be done. But, I hadn't thought about what the WDFW would have to say about going back later to get it. I'll have to call them tomorrow and see what can be done.

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #106 on: September 15, 2013, 03:50:52 PM »
I'm not  fan of stinging insects especially yellow jackets that can become very protective of a food source that there on. a few weeks ago I found pile of yellow jackets feeding on a dead mouse that my cat had discarded. seeing as i never pass up an opportunity to kill a bunch of yellow jackets I quickly grabbed a can of wasp spray and took aim. before the spry could reach the 20-30 yellow jackets they were off the carcass and headed my way. they finally gave up chase about 75 feet away and I was lucky not to get stung. THAT WAS A MOUSE.............I would say this situation is X 1000  :bdid:

My advise would be if practical go in late in the evening or very early in the morning and saw off the head and tag it.

It sucks you lost the meat but it would suck even more if you received 100's of yellow jacket stings recovering the antlers.

good luck
Go buy the spray, pack a gamebag, water, your tag and send me a pm. Ill meet you tonight and hike in with you to get it. Im in Tacoma so allow for travel time but i'm willing to help tonight if you're serious.

I really appreciate the offer but I simply do not have this option. I absolutely have to be at work early tomorrow morning and I cannot leave tonight as I am watching my daughters. From my house in Centralia it is a two and half to three hour drive, probably about 5-6 hours hike time in the dark, and then the drive back. It is very generous of you to offer it and I do wish I could do it, but I just can't tonight.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #107 on: September 15, 2013, 03:52:12 PM »
If it was me.... Put tag on horn and saw neck off.  Post a pic.....

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #108 on: September 15, 2013, 03:56:54 PM »
I'm not  fan of stinging insects especially yellow jackets that can become very protective of a food source that there on. a few weeks ago I found pile of yellow jackets feeding on a dead mouse that my cat had discarded. seeing as i never pass up an opportunity to kill a bunch of yellow jackets I quickly grabbed a can of wasp spray and took aim. before the spry could reach the 20-30 yellow jackets they were off the carcass and headed my way. they finally gave up chase about 75 feet away and I was lucky not to get stung. THAT WAS A MOUSE.............I would say this situation is X 1000  :bdid:

My advise would be if practical go in late in the evening or very early in the morning and saw off the head and tag it.

It sucks you lost the meat but it would suck even more if you received 100's of yellow jacket stings recovering the antlers.

good luck

Yellow jackets are horrible - but these are bald faced hornets - the black and white ones and they are even meaner I think. They were noticeable less already within one day and maybe we could have managed to get close enough. Come to think of it, I did not see one yellow jacket on the carcass. Just an unbelievable morphing pile of maggots, along with crazy black flies and a ton of those hornets crawling all over it. They should be gone once the meat is gone.

Come to think of it, I hadn't even pondered the legality of packing it out after at least a few more days. I've already found it, but I do not think it would have been physically possible to tag it with causing a severe disturbance to a lot of hornets, which would likely have resulted in me somehow having to get to a hospital, since I swell up really bad from only a single sting. The problem being that it is a long hike back to the truck and at least an hour and a half drive to the nearest hospital if I were really hauling @!#. It's not worth that risk when I know I can wait a little bit for the bees and bugs to be done. But, I hadn't thought about what the WDFW would have to say about going back later to get it. I'll have to call them tomorrow and see what can be done.
Lets go, you can watch from a distanceif you dont want to get stung.

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #109 on: September 15, 2013, 03:58:28 PM »
I'm not  fan of stinging insects especially yellow jackets that can become very protective of a food source that there on. a few weeks ago I found pile of yellow jackets feeding on a dead mouse that my cat had discarded. seeing as i never pass up an opportunity to kill a bunch of yellow jackets I quickly grabbed a can of wasp spray and took aim. before the spry could reach the 20-30 yellow jackets they were off the carcass and headed my way. they finally gave up chase about 75 feet away and I was lucky not to get stung. THAT WAS A MOUSE.............I would say this situation is X 1000  :bdid:

My advise would be if practical go in late in the evening or very early in the morning and saw off the head and tag it.

It sucks you lost the meat but it would suck even more if you received 100's of yellow jacket stings recovering the antlers.

good luck
Go buy the spray, pack a gamebag, water, your tag and send me a pm. Ill meet you tonight and hike in with you to get it. Im in Tacoma so allow for travel time but i'm willing to help tonight if you're serious.

I really appreciate the offer but I simply do not have this option. I absolutely have to be at work early tomorrow morning and I cannot leave tonight as I am watching my daughters. From my house in Centralia it is a two and half to three hour drive, probably about 5-6 hours hike time in the dark, and then the drive back. It is very generous of you to offer it and I do wish I could do it, but I just can't tonight.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #110 on: September 15, 2013, 04:05:31 PM »
You really need to consider the great offer that phool has out there. We all owe it to the animals we hunt and the sport we love. Dont let this animal be totally wasted.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #111 on: September 15, 2013, 04:10:24 PM »
You really need to consider the great offer that phool has out there. We all owe it to the animals we hunt and the sport we love. Dont let this animal be totally wasted.

I don't think he's planning on letting it be "totally wasted" it's just that he can't expedite the process.

I agree though, I hope there is a work around that can get it done tonight.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #112 on: September 15, 2013, 04:10:53 PM »
Great offer huntnphool!   :tup:
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #113 on: September 15, 2013, 04:24:52 PM »

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #114 on: September 15, 2013, 04:41:20 PM »
I'm not planning on wasting anything. The only thing salvageable is the antlers and you can't eat them. I absolutely cannot leave tonight and I cannot take even one more day off. I've already spoken with the WDFW and let them know of the situation. I explained everything from beginning to end, and I've got the number of an officer who has basically given me permission to go retrieve when I can get in there next and after it can be expected that the hornets will be gone. I've informed him of the trail I will use to access the area, the approximate cross country route I will take in and out, and the approximate location of the animal, as well as the driving route I intend to take out of the area. I will be calling him as soon as I have taken possession of the skull and antlers and have cell service. If he is available, he may be meeting me to take a look. There's nothing more I can possibly do. I love antlers as much as the next guy, but I would have much rather had the meat. Since that is not an option, I'm just trying to do the best I can which is to go up on my next day off and see what I can do to get what I can out of there.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #115 on: September 15, 2013, 04:58:04 PM »
I'm not planning on wasting anything. The only thing salvageable is the antlers and you can't eat them. I absolutely cannot leave tonight and I cannot take even one more day off. I've already spoken with the WDFW and let them know of the situation. I explained everything from beginning to end, and I've got the number of an officer who has basically given me permission to go retrieve when I can get in there next and after it can be expected that the hornets will be gone. I've informed him of the trail I will use to access the area, the approximate cross country route I will take in and out, and the approximate location of the animal, as well as the driving route I intend to take out of the area. I will be calling him as soon as I have taken possession of the skull and antlers and have cell service. If he is available, he may be meeting me to take a look. There's nothing more I can possibly do. I love antlers as much as the next guy, but I would have much rather had the meat. Since that is not an option, I'm just trying to do the best I can which is to go up on my next day off and see what I can do to get what I can out of there.
Glad you got in touch with them today. :tup: Be sure to take pics when you get there and finish off the story when you get back.
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #116 on: September 15, 2013, 05:06:10 PM »
Phool what a great offer  :tup:. Honestly not surprised but a great offer from another hunter.

Silverslinger, best of luck on the recovery and finishing out this story, glad the WDFW is aware and I hope you make the best of it.

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #117 on: September 15, 2013, 08:05:11 PM »
Probably just missed it but what unit was the bull shot in? Or if you want to keep it on the DL the east or west side?
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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #118 on: September 15, 2013, 08:06:48 PM »
Probably just missed it but what unit was the bull shot in? Or if you want to keep it on the DL the east or west side?

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Re: Absolutely Sickening EDIT: Bull Was Found
« Reply #119 on: September 15, 2013, 08:18:00 PM »
If your going up next weekend and want some help I might be able to help out. Pm me and we can stay in touch through out the week.
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