Edmonds, WA man shot by police while open-carrying rifle

[pianoman9701]

If the police gave him an order to put down his firearm, he's an idiot if he didn't comply, whether within his rights or not. You can discuss an "illegal" command with a supervisor later and have appropriate retraining done later. I'm certainly not looking to get shot just to prove I'm right. How dumb is that?

[Crunchy]

Other reports stated he was "carrying" the rifle but the key to the shooting is police allege that the man leveled the rifle at officers before he was shot.

I'm sure the police are claiming that. I have never met a cop yet that wasn't a pathological lair so we will probably never know the truth.

You haven't met a cop that wasn't a liar??  I am betting you have had more than a few "misunderstandings" with LE to have such a negative opinion.

[returnofsid]

After all the cops getting shot if the man was told to put it down? If I was the cop I would shoot him to . Really hope that was the case and not a unjustified shooting.

I don't believe the cops have a legal right to force a guy carrying legally to give up his weapon. 

I respectfully disagree.  In any situation, involving firearms, I believe an officer has the right to take control of any weapon, for safety reasons.  This isn't to say that the weapon would not be returned to the owner, as soon as the officers duties are complete.  I do believe an officer has the right to maintain a safe environment, for all involved, up to and including commanding someone to place a weapon on the ground, temporarily.

If a person is being ordered to do something, by a law enforcement officer, the person does it, or faces the consequences.  If a person is holding a firearm, and decides to disobey a direct order from a police officer, whether a lawful order or not, those consequences could prove deadly.

[Mike450r]

After all the cops getting shot if the man was told to put it down? If I was the cop I would shoot him to . Really hope that was the case and not a unjustified shooting.

I don't believe the cops have a legal right to force a guy carrying legally to give up his weapon. 

I respectfully disagree.  In any situation, involving firearms, I believe an officer has the right to take control of any weapon, for safety reasons.  This isn't to say that the weapon would not be returned to the owner, as soon as the officers duties are complete.  I do believe an officer has the right to maintain a safe environment, for all involved, up to and including commanding someone to place a weapon on the ground, temporarily.

If a person is being ordered to do something, by a law enforcement officer, the person does it, or faces the consequences.  If a person is holding a firearm, and decides to disobey a direct order from a police officer, whether a lawful order or not, those consequences could prove deadly.

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner with the correct answer,   which also means we have a LOSER with the incorrect answer.

[Dhoey07]

Don't cops wear cameras now?

[JLS]

Don't cops wear cameras now?

Some do, some don't.  The majority don't.

[stevemiller]

They dont when they dont want something shown.they do happen to have them when they do want to show.And I believe all LE cars have them.

[scout/sniper]

As was already stated, always follow the LE commands. If they were wrong, take it up with the department after the incident. Proving a point about legality in this fashion hurts our cause and gives ammo to the anti's.

[JLS]

They dont when they dont want something shown.they do happen to have them when they do want to show.And I believe all LE cars have them.

No, all LE cars don't have them.

[Crunchy]

I bet no more than 20 percent state wide have the cameras. Anyone want to lose some money?

[Crunchy]

They dont when they dont want something shown.they do happen to have them when they do want to show.And I believe all LE cars have them.

Need to get your facts straight.

[jjaba]

Common sense here.... If a Law Enforcement officer tells you to put your weapon down... Well put it down... step away from it and talk. Yes our legal rights to carry but also be smart and listen. I guarantee if a cop asks me to put down and step away from my weapons I will and have. Conversation goes a lot better when you cooperate. 

[stevemiller]

I bet no more than 20 percent state wide have the cameras. Anyone want to lose some money?

where did you come up with these numbers? 

[seth30]

I feel bad for those that witnessed the shooting.

[stevemiller]

They dont when they dont want something shown.they do happen to have them when they do want to show.And I believe all LE cars have them.

Need to get your facts straight.

Ok,since you know so much why dont you tell us all the facts,and then tell us where you got them facts.In my studies i do get quite a bit of this info.I dont and never have had probs with any type of Le,lived with a fed. cop over in Tacoma when teenager and have a few long time LE friends.theres cops that like them cops that dont like them and the state loves them.lawsuits have steadily been declining since implementing them.the state has spent 12 million on cameras and video equipment,plate scanning equipment etc. hows that for facts?Are they straight? Oh and also the video cams cost about $400 each.And they are installed by the same people that repair there lights,radios,etc.And 20% is actually quite a few,1 out of 5 cars,and when 3 show up at a scene odds are 1 has a camera.