Tuning trouble :(

[OutdoorFreak97]

Hello all,
I'm in need of some tuning advice

I shoot a PSE bowmadness XS 60#

Sight: Trophy ridge Fire-wire V5

Rest: Nap Apache

Arrows: Beman ICS hunter 400 spine 100 grain tips, cut at 30 inches
My draw length is 29" 
 

Preparing for hunting I bought muzzy 3 blade (100 grain)

I shoot G5 montec last year, they flew great but are too expensive for me this year..

My question(s)

I started paper tuning with the Easton guide and found my mock point was too high.

I put my D-loop up and now my arrows sit on the rest arrow tip angled down.
I can't put my rest up because its already maxed out on height.

I've got them shooting prefect at 6 feet

What should I do?

[luckyman]

If your getting knock high you should try lowering the D loop.

[Smossy]

If your getting knock high you should try lowering the D loop.

If your points are hitting on center, and your broadheads are shooting up and to the right "I have a reason to believe they are" "LOWER" your nocking point, and reduce your draw weight slightly.
Lower it about half a turn on both screws and then try shots again. Reduce D/W untill your broadheads match up.  I just had to do this recently.

[demontang]

How did you set your nock point? Your rest shouldnt be up all the way unless you nock point is to high. Check it again cause it sounds like your way out and your heads arnt going to fly right tell you get it set right. Look at the holes your rest bolts too does you arrow set level with it or is it above ?

[quadrafire]

I'll get flamed for this, but keep it simple. I have a PSE xs 60 lb, 28.5 in draw, shoot 5575 gold tips with a whisker biscuit........... simple simple simple. I have shot a "double Robinhood" at 30 yrd with this set up.
You don't need to get to crazy

[OutdoorFreak97]

If your getting knock high you should try lowering the D loop.

I'm sorry, I didn't add it into my post

Before I raised my D-loop, my arrows from 15 yards were hitting nock down with a bare shaft on the target

That's why I put my nock point up.

When I used the paper tuning before I moved my nock point up my arrows with fletch where also tracking down but obviously not as much as the bare shaft

I was just following the steps of the Easton guide
Am I doing something wrong?

How did you set your nock point? Your rest shouldnt be up all the way unless you nock point is to high. Check it again cause it sounds like your way out and your heads arnt going to fly right tell you get it set right. Look at the holes your rest bolts too does you arrow set level with it or is it above ?

I set my nock point by moving my D-loop up the string.

Just checked the arrow to rest bolt alignment
My arrow sits level with the rests attachment bolt.
I assumed the vertical adjustment was already set properly as I had a Proshop put the rest on with a alignment jig/level

[OutdoorFreak97]

If your points are hitting on center, and your broadheads are shooting up and to the right "I have a reason to believe they are" "LOWER" your nocking point, and reduce your draw weight slightly.
Lower it about half a turn on both screws and then try shots again. Reduce D/W untill your broadheads match up.  I just had to do this recently.

I will try this!
Thanks for the tips guys

Any other input is great appreciated!!

[Duffer]

I've had to do the opposite of what the Easton guide says more than a few times.

for example: a low loop should cause a low nock tear (if close enough to the paper), but if your loop is really low the nock can bump the riser or the rest which instantly kicks the nock up and you end up with a high nock tear.

make an adjustment. check your tear. if it gets better, continue. if it gets worse.... adjust the other way!

[demontang]

Just a heads up some times shops dont check things they

just throw parts on. It sounds like you need to lower you nock and your rest the top of your shaft should be the ti p or the holes that you bolt your rest too. Ill get a pic of how it should look and post it

[demontang]

This site has a picture and explains nock hight
 http://ellerbruch.nmu.edu/classes/cs255w02/cs255students/JVANDUSE/P4/teach.html

[OutdoorFreak97]

I ended up calling the proshop asking of he did paper tuning
He said no and said the muzzy's were going to he a pain for me to get shooting right
I went to the shop, bought some slick tricks
Had him re-set my rest
Got home, shot some field points, got my bow re-sighted
Slick tricks shot dead on from 20 - 50

Thanks for the info guys!
Going hunting tomorrow, wish me luck!

[coachcw]

jig the bow , level the string and level the arrow , really pretty simple , theres some pretty good lazer center shot tools aswell .

[demontang]

The guy just made a sale by telling you muzzy wouldnt work. Im shooting muzzy and have no problem shooting my buck at 55yds and finished him at 80yds

[bowtech experience]

someone may have wrote this already but when you set your knocking point make sure when you get it set that your arrow is sitting inline with the bolt that holds your rest in. once you get the knocking point try to do french tuning for your center shot and then go back to the paper or just screw on a broad head and forget the paper and broad head tune it. when using broad heads just do the opposite of what you would with paper tare. ex. if broad heads r right of field points that is a tare left in paper.